"I'm spiritual but not religious." Help me out y'all. What does this mean?

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lol there is no goal post... i dont think you get it.
i can think on your terms but you cant on mine...
youve read Charles Darwin & Socrates and you let them define how you think.
Ive read those and other things and its refined how i think.
You seem to think that you're capable of some enhanced rhetoric gynmastics that the rest of us aren't.

You're not.

I really don't get what is to be gained by kicking the "god" can down the road when you just want to believe in some ambiguous entity whose existence and realm of possibility gets smaller with each ACTUAL discovery being made.

now youre quoting that youtube video with that scientist... i actually agree with what he said about the "God of the gaps"... the thing is tho, i dont subscribe to that way of thinking he was "debunking". I dont need God as an explanation for things in nature or space that arent understood yet... nor do a plug my ears when things are understood. Thats what the religious do for the most part.
 

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now youre quoting that youtube video with that scientist... i actually agree with what he said about the "God of the gaps"... the thing is tho, i dont subscribe to that way of thinking he was "debunking". I dont need God as an explanation for things in nature or space that arent understood yet... nor do a plug my ears when things are understood. Thats what the religious do for the most part.

Yet you equate your "god" to ambiguous and undiscovered things about the universe...so... :duck:
 

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I don't believe in God. I also don't believe in coincidence. I believe in me.

God is a human made schema. Whether it exists or not is not of any value. You exist. You have agency. Doesn't mean something else beyond Human comprehension is at work but we will never know, at least in my estimation.

Math is limited. The only reason you can see right-side up or see corners is because the Brain has to create mathmatical cheats to make sense of this reality. Quantum science has been collapsing on itself for the last 50 years.

To state this more concisely, the point of living is TO LIVE, not to think about living or to find out the existence of a being who dictates meaning. It's staring you right in the face. You are the dictator of meaning.

I say it's all circular because 20th century philosophy, post-modernism, has led to Irony and that has led us nowhere but circular behavior and useless affect. I'd argue it's stepchildren Objectivism and what not have been more harmful than religion.
 

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I don't believe in God. I also don't believe in coincidence. I believe in me.
Right on.

God is a human made schema. Whether exists or not is not of any value. You exist. You have agency.
Right on.

Math is limited. The only reason you can see right-side up or see corners is because the Brain has to create mathmatical cheats to make sense of this reality. Quantum science has been collapsing on itself for the last 50 years.
Right on...so far that we know...

To state this more concisely, the point of living is TO LIVE, not to think about living or to find out the existence of a being who dictates meaning. It's staring you right in the face. You are the dictator of meaning.

Right on.

I say it's all circular because 20th century philosophy, post-modernism, has led to Irony and that has led us nowhere but circular behavior and useless affect. I'd argue it's stepchildren Objectivism and what not have been more harmful than religion.

Fair. Very fair.



























....but what does that have to do with us talking to theists?

I debate this stuff because I can.
 

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If you know this then what inherent value do you get other than a feeling of superiority?
 

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:mindblown:

Defining how that god interacts doesn't mean anything. You're still a deist.
The meaning of deism said that the god doesn't intervene.

I believe that this god figure does intervene therefore me not being a deist.
 

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Whats that?


Do you need to "identify" god to not be an @sshole to your neighbors?


Yet you've still preferred the christian versions. So...yes, you find some additional credibility with the one you've attracted yourself to.


But you say that you follow religion to guide your morals...


If you're makign shyt up then what you're putting stock in doesn't actually exist.

You just don't like the negative stigma of saying you're "religious" yet you...follow religions rituals and subscribe to religious concepts.



How do you know prayer worked rather than your own efforts and how do you distinguish between the outcomes?
What makes you think that?
 

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nope. I believe in me. God = Generator Operator Destroyer.

And what exactly is that? or are you going to keep it as vague as possible while ascribing as many things that you want to be true to it as well?

You know, if we're not defining something, then we're not talking about anything i.e. nothing.
 

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Doesn't matter.

Deism is simply that you believe in some higher power yet you claim not to "identify" with major religions.

Its a catch-all concept.
Deism is what the definition defines.

Don't go changing definitions on me lol.
 

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Man, can yall talk about something more interesting and nerdy like the theory that the universe is the affect of a computer engine?
 
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