I’m legit confused as to why I keep seeing George W Bush’s name mentioned in a positive manner

[FukkaPaidEmail]

This dude cut a promo on terriorism then immediately said "now watch this drive" as he went to hit a golf ball.

Now watch this drive

See you at church

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Bush sucked and I think a lot of people are just too young to remember. Couldn’t believe that man had two terms. 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Katrina. Not to mention he too had his own election scandal of sorts when it was real questionable about how he won FL. Then we had the recession of 08 which disproportionately effected black homeowners. That wasn’t necessarily his fault but it did happen under his watch

The second term was literally handed to him because Kerry was probably the WOAT dem candidate. Dude was too tone deaf with how society works. Along with the whole "Vote or Die" shyt which really pushed people away from even caring because it just felt like the votes didn't matter really didn't help in the process.

Lets not forget about Ohio's issues with the ballots .

This is why I'm afraid for the second go round with Trump and Biden. It's like deja vu all over again but this time, it's bad on every angle

 

[BmoreGorilla]

The second term was literally handed to him because Kerry was probably the WOAT dem candidate. Dude was too tone deaf with how society works. Along with the whole "Vote or Die" shyt which really pushed people away from even caring because it just felt like the votes didn't matter really didn't help in the process.

Lets not forget about Ohio's issues with the ballots .

This is why I'm afraid for the second go round with Trump and Biden. It's like deja vu all over again but this time, it's bad on every angle

Bush was so bad that it opened the door for a nikka named Barack Obama who campaigned off change to win

 

[Ciggavelli]

Bush's wars cost hundreds of thousands of lives (most civilians). That's bad. But what is so crazy is, despite all of that, Trump makes him look good in comparison

Pure numbers though, GWB is worse. Trump is terrible, but he hasn't started 2 unwinnable wars that kill tens of thousands of innocents (at least not yet)

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

Bush didnt actively encourage people at least domestically, to hate and distrust eachother.

Objectively speaking his presidency was terrible. He dragged the country further into debt with two shytty wars that accomplished nothing. essentially gave other countries including china access to the manufacturing base, created isis, and had the worst possible response to a natural disaster. Not to mention triggering the worst financial crisis in a generation.

His presidency was the equivalent of making it halfway to the endzone then throwing the ball in the air and sitting down and eating a sandwich after pissing on the ground

 

[Marc Spector]

Bush didnt actively encourage people at least domestically, to hate and distrust eachother.

Objectively speaking his presidency was terrible. He dragged the country further into debt with two shytty wars that accomplished nothing. essentially gave other countries including china access to the manufacturing base, created isis, and had the worst possible response to a natural disaster. Not to mention triggering the worst financial crisis in a generation.

His presidency was the equivalent of making it halfway to the endzone then throwing the ball in the air and sitting down and eating a sandwich after pissing on the ground

Underrated point.

Bush felt like down years....Trump feels like the death of an empire.

 

[Turbulent]

The conventional wisdom on the W Bush admin os that Bush was an everyday laidback type of dude and that he was just the face. Most people think Cheney was the brain and the evil one. They view Cheney as the architect of the wars, gitmo, etc. And bush was just the goofball face.

With Trump, it's basically as if America elected King Joffrey I Baratheon. And now everyone, including his own side is scared of him.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Bush didnt actively encourage people at least domestically, to hate and distrust eachother.

Objectively speaking his presidency was terrible. He dragged the country further into debt with two shytty wars that accomplished nothing. essentially gave other countries including china access to the manufacturing base, created isis, and had the worst possible response to a natural disaster. Not to mention triggering the worst financial crisis in a generation.

His presidency was the equivalent of making it halfway to the endzone then throwing the ball in the air and sitting down and eating a sandwich after pissing on the ground

He didn’t have to do it actively. 9/11 happened and then all of a sudden we went to war in two middle eastern countries to fight the Taliban and find WMD that didnt exist


I think people forget that things for Arabs were not looking good as a result. To this day the country as a whole has an irrational hate for Muslims that didn’t exist before. There was always prejudice against them but this took it to another level

 

[Here Comes the Pain]

I remember dude was hated forreal, but time has been extremely kind to him cuz you hardly hear about him outside of a few mentions.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

No denying this, but at the end of the day we are on the verge of a global rapture economically if Trump keeps doing these bullshyt policies on a international level. Iraq is one of the WOAT pieces of history because of the circumstances around it, but this is like some last days type of shyt involving the pandemic, xenophobia times 10, and policies that may make us going into another cold war but this time with China.

To your last points the bush administration had a better handle on foreign policy than Trumps. This administration is accelerating the path of China replacing the U.S. As the top superpower. This argument will hit a lot different when the yaun replaces the dollar as the reserve currency

 

[xCivicx]

Did people just forget everything or are they just too young to remember

Theyre just too young

Trump makes Dubbaya look smart

Nope not at all

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Before there was Trump, Bush was the idiot republican president that was going to set black people back hundreds of years and only in office because of nepotism and Florida. Oh and the way he handled Katrina

teams didnt denounce him like they did sunkist

 

[42 Monks]

Fair points

I remember watching the doc "When The Levees Broke" and just smh at the fact that Bush KNEW KATRINA WAS POPPING OFF. I dig what yall saying. I'm just expressing the feels of a young man during that time as we all were (well most). I remember the recession happening and the fact that I got laid off and seen buildings I grew up with just turning into Scooby Doo ghost backdrops. Yes, the Iraq shyt was just a ploy to kill Sadam and take his goods. Yes, Bush was probably one of the WOAT presidents of all time.

However, I pointed out the Reagan comparison because dude had a war with everything minority build from blacks to gays. D.A.R.E, the drug trade, AIDS, etc...all were responsible for the black communities to crumble at the feet of the enemy. Bush Jr on the other hand main goal was to finished his failed father's legacy of the Iraq shyt. Yes, on a international level this really caused some shyt especially with how we travel and the fear of live itself. But calling Bush Jr the WOAT when we have a lifeless devil in office along with a past president in hell for making this 1 percent shyt pop off to the fullest just seems a bit far fetched to put Bush Jr as the endgame of everything wrong with presidency.

I dig what yall saying though

Bush handed out some of the biggest tax cuts for that same group at the time too. The mortgage crisis effected minorities far more. And he was strongly anti-union as well. He even enacted the Taft-Harley Act to force striking workers back to work which ruined their negotiations.

The immediate sensationalism we have today really has Trump built up to be far more than he is. And I want to be clear in saying that this is not some dismissal of Trump's many negatives. I just want to emphasize that if these events occurred today, they'd be dramatically more impactful than most of what we've seen during this administration.

The fact that Trump went through impeachment and not Bush should speak volumes about the differences in narratives compared to then and now.. Ain't like it was that much of a different crowd either. Pelosi was calling the shots then too.

To your last points the bush administration had a better handle on foreign policy than Trumps. This administration is accelerating the path of China replacing the U.S. As the top superpower. This argument will hit a lot different when the yaun replaces the dollar as the reserve currency

Gotta disagree.

The Untold Story of How George W. Bush Lost China

Good read up imo^. Bush is responsible for leaving the door open.

 

[xCivicx]

And then trump said hold my beer

How??

Do you know how many millions are dead behind the "war on terror"??

 

[xCivicx]

Bush was worse.

I can't believe people are trying to sugarcoat his time in office now....

Yup and so far theyre not even close