I’m glad they got Zack Snyder the fukk up outta here

[obarth]

'These niqqaz', I wonder who that is? lol
And this long ass post is real evidence, 'you had to dip out'.

This is supposed to be where I entertain you quoting me, then we proceed to go back and forth with you providing nothing of substance while insisting on replying anyway right?
I'm waiting for:
"But you just entertained me quoting you with this very post"

 

[AnonymityX1000]

This is supposed to be where I entertain you quoting me, then we proceed to go back and forth with you providing nothing of substance while insisting on replying anyway right?
I'm waiting for:
"But you just entertained me quoting you with this very post"

No answer to my queries huh? I quote people not talk about people in non-specific ways. I guess we aren't built the same in that regard.
Your passive aggressive complaining where you type paragraphs isn't consistent with your claim of dipping out.
But do you, it is less hypocritical compared to whoever you are talking about.

 

[richaveli83]

Having these debates was kind of fun during the Man of Steel Hundred Years War prior to BvsS dropping, but I had to dip out the game once I realized it was essentially like debating hip hop with cats whose CD collection was comprised solely of the "Now That's What I Call Music!" series

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Lies. Tomasi and Gleason just wrapped up one of the best received Superman comic runs ever, which was very much 'sunshine and rainbows.'

The reason Bendis at DC has been met with such trepidation is because people were scared he was taking those very things away.

Even though I was cool with Tomasi & Gleason's run the last time a Superman book was in the top 10 or 20 best selling list (going by yearly not monthly) was back in 2013 with Superman Unchained with Scott Snyder writing the "emo" nu52 Superman.

The dad Superman is okay but I grew up with the John Bryne, Jerry Ordway era Superman who was slightly grounded and felt like a fully fleshed out character. I think older fans who grew up with silver age Superman tend to be the most vocal when it comes to how Superman is supposed to be depicted.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

All of this goes back to stanning, famThese nikkas don't really care about authenticity and staying true to the comics when it involves whatever billion dollar company they've pledged unyielding loyalty to. I could point out all of the huge liberties that have been taken with characters in the properties they stan and there'd just be a bunch of juelzing. Dudes will be popping blood vessels saying WB, Fox, or Sony ruined a character, you post scans from the comics showing precedent and the same nikkas will tell you they don't read comic books like thatYou got dudes outchea, whose entire experience with comic book characters is solely from 90's Saturday morning cartoons, being the loudest in the room once it's time to debate about the execution of characters and story arcs.

Having these debates was kind of fun during the Man of Steel Hundred Years War prior to BvsS dropping, but I had to dip out the game once I realized it was essentially like debating hip hop with cats whose CD collection was comprised solely of the "Now That's What I Call Music!" series

like I said in the Aquaman thread, it's the same 3-4 retards with shytty opinions and biases and the rest of us just enjoy movies no matter what company is behind it.. if it's good, it's good... period

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Lies

Martha

 

[Just like bruddas]

Keep this batman, keep the joker, keep deathstroke, change the director. Da fukk is so hard about that?

 

[ig88]

Zero problem with the girl robin.

But stupid to trade characters that died. Why would you kill dikk grayson when jason todd is the dead robin. Is he Gon be the red hood. Its dumb.

 

[Spliff]

I can't keep up with The Film Room.

I thought y'all were blaming WB for fast-tracking DCEU and ruining any momentum gained off MOS.

Either way, I'll forever be aggy we didn't get a MOS2 or possible trilogy before shoehorning in Batman, let alone the fukking Justice League.

 

[Supercoolmayo]

But we've seen a version of Robin before in film.

We've seen Bruce when he's learning to be Batman.

We've seen the happy go lucky Superman

Why does every series have to start at the same point?

Why do we need to see one or two Robin's before we get to Carrie?

Why do we have to start with pre-jaded Batman just to get to old and jaded Batman that doesn't give a fukk anymore?

All of this goes back to people wanting to see the same thing they experienced in the past, not giving a fukk about other takes on characters that have a ton of them

Why should the audiencw care if your going to skip the majority of the character's devolpment. This is one of the reasons BvS was panned because Wb was taking shortcuts.

 

[Sir Charles Barkley]

caught JL again last night for the first time since I saw it in the theater and it amazes me that people still support Gadot’s casting.

maybe it was because of the reshoots and she wasn’t trying but she is laughably bad in some scenes, especially when supes comes back to life and she’s trying to reason with him.

its almost borderline parody.

 

[jwinfield]

Why should the audiencw care if your going to skip the majority of the character's devolpment. This is one of the reasons BvS was panned because Wb was taking shortcuts.

So every Batman related story has to start with Bruce watching his parents getting killed?

Every Spiderman related story has to start with Peter on a trip getting bit by a spider?

How many movies are we going to need to get to Nightwing or Red Hood if this is what we're saying?

As @MartyMcFly said, you have good writing, you don't have to tell the entire story just to get to the arc you want to deal with.

Lord of the Rings movies, we didn't need a bunch of Bilbo Baggins/Hobbit movies beforehand to understand Frodo's development.

I'm watching Succession, a show about this old and sick media mogul and his family, how they're dealing with him and the business as his health declines. It's a dope show. I didn't need to see the main character as a kid to see how his parents raised him. I don't need to see him in high school and college to see how certain classes shaped his approach to business. I don't need episodes dealing with the love angle between him and his first wife, or a wedding episode, a couple of seasons showing how he raised his kids and how that affected their personalities, an arc of him starting his first business, divorcing his first wife, etc..

The story the writers want to tell is about an old and sick man trying to hold on to the business he created while his family is trying to figure out how to prevent him from fukking it up before they take over.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

So every Batman related story has to start with Bruce watching his parents getting killed?

Every Spiderman related story has to start with Peter on a trip getting bit by a spider?

How many movies are we going to need to get to Nightwing or Red Hood if this is what we're saying?

As @MartyMcFly said, you have good writing, you don't have to tell the entire story just to get to the arc you want to deal with.

Lord of the Rings movies, we didn't need a bunch of Bilbo Baggins/Hobbit movies beforehand to understand Frodo's development.

I'm watching Succession, a show about this old and sick media mogul and his family, how they're dealing with him and the business as his health declines. It's a dope show. I didn't need to see the main character as a kid to see how his parents raised him. I don't need to see him in high school and college to see how certain classes shaped his approach to business. I don't need episodes dealing with the love angle between him and his first wife, or a wedding episode, a couple of seasons showing how he raised his kids and how that affected their personalities, an arc of him starting his first business, divorcing his first wife, etc..

The story the writers want to tell is about an old and sick man trying to hold on to the business he created while his family is trying to figure out how to prevent him from fukking it up before they take over.

You don't think a Red Hood or Nightwing story would be served better by people previously knowing Robin's persona and seeing him fight side by side with Batman and endearing himself to the audience?
The difference between that and your other examples is Batman's and Spiderman's origins have been done numerous times even recently. Robin's was done once 20 years ago in a bad movie. It's different. Yes, great writing can overcome all but that's lightning in a bottle you cannot count on. So why make the degree of difficulty high when you don't have to?

 

[MartyMcFly]

So every Batman related story has to start with Bruce watching his parents getting killed?

Every Spiderman related story has to start with Peter on a trip getting bit by a spider?

How many movies are we going to need to get to Nightwing or Red Hood if this is what we're saying?

As @MartyMcFly said, you have good writing, you don't have to tell the entire story just to get to the arc you want to deal with.

Lord of the Rings movies, we didn't need a bunch of Bilbo Baggins/Hobbit movies beforehand to understand Frodo's development.

I'm watching Succession, a show about this old and sick media mogul and his family, how they're dealing with him and the business as his health declines. It's a dope show. I didn't need to see the main character as a kid to see how his parents raised him. I don't need to see him in high school and college to see how certain classes shaped his approach to business. I don't need episodes dealing with the love angle between him and his first wife, or a wedding episode, a couple of seasons showing how he raised his kids and how that affected their personalities, an arc of him starting his first business, divorcing his first wife, etc..

The story the writers want to tell is about an old and sick man trying to hold on to the business he created while his family is trying to figure out how to prevent him from fukking it up before they take over.

Yeah it’s the same thing behind someone in the John wick thread saying we need a John wick prequel. No we don’t lol. Everything we need to know about John is stated in that first movie. I don’t need to see him on a job he had prior to being married. I don’t need to see the impossible task.

I’m glad Reeves is saying his Batman story will be very focused on a specific case that Batman has to solve. He’s not interested in any Bruce backstory just a particular moment in time.

Yes you can earn more buy in if you start a story at its beginning so the audience goes along with it but, for example, introducing Carrie is about Carrie and not about dikk or Jason. You don’t need to tell their stories to intro Carrie because outside of sharing the moniker, she has nothing to do with them.

The problems happen when you have a situation like justice league where the storytelling doesn’t match with the world you’ve built. The whole movie they wanted the narrative that Superman was a light to the world and the world is worse without him but for two prior movies I saw the world divided on his presence and blame him for countless acts of violence. You can’t tell me in the next movie that he’s this beacon of hope and light that the world needs

There’s a much better way to do that and they didn’t. But again that goes back to writing. It always goes back to writing. And a good or great writer can take just about anything and make it gold

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Affleck is not a good Batman, he needs to go. Eisenberg sucks, always hated dude anyway. Cavill sucks too.

Snyder has some skills but he's all style.