I’m a Doctor, From Chicago, lived in Alabama, Atl, and now Nola, AMA

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i am professional as an MD for going on 10 yrs now (3 of which were residency), and i explained quite thoroughly if you read my posts. the whole being considered a "doctor" or "PCP" by insurance companies is more of an on paper/technical thing for reimbursement purposes and clearly not in the traditional sense one would think of when someone talks about going to see their doctor. NO ONE WOULD EVER HAVE A CHIROPRACTOR AS THEIR PCP or regularly have them order lab/imaging tests or prescribe meds. it's disingenuous nonsense/misrepresentation and too broad to really tell the full story of the significant differences between him and an MD/DO traditional doctor. He should've said that he was a chiropractor and not used the term doctor in his thread title. He purposely tried to slip that in casually and people rightly called him out on it.

nikka please

And it’s a lot of people debating me with opinions, not a shred of evidence, a lot of you all have not even set foot in college, let alone a medical or chiropractic, then you even have one dude saying that the medical school has harder classes, as if you have sat in every medical and chiropractic class to judge the intensity in which I or others have been trained and tested. I will put this thread to rest, if you want to congratulate me cool, if not cool too, i ain’t going back and forth with yall
 

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Individuals that have PhDs should be referred to as Professor instead of “Doctor” in the academic setting and nothing at all outside of academics.

not all individuals with phds are professors, even in academic settings

i agree with your point though

chiropractors are not medical doctors and i wouldn't call a chiropractor a doctor
 

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Let's put this this thread to rest,

The term doctor is not solely owned by Physicians.

A Doctorate is a terminal degree that you earn when you have attained the highest level of education in a given field.

PhD, EdD, Dds, etc........

Physician = Physician

The OP never claimed to be a physician......

“So physicians and their allies are pushing legislative efforts to restrict who gets to use the title of doctor. A bill proposed in the New York State Senate would bar nurses from advertising themselves as doctors, no matter their degree. A law proposed in Congress would bar people from misrepresenting their education or license to practice. And laws already in effect in Arizona, Delaware and other states forbid nurses, pharmacists and others to use the title “doctor” unless they immediately identify their profession.”

With More Doctorates in Health Care, a Fight Over a Title

Op didn’t immediately identify that he was a chiro in the thread title. That could have been a felony in one of these states.
 

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nikka please

And it’s a lot of people debating me with opinions, not a shred of evidence, a lot of you all have not even set foot in college, let alone a medical or chiropractic, then you even have one dude saying that the medical school has harder classes, as if you have sat in every medical and chiropractic class to judge the intensity in which I or others have been trained and tested. I will put this thread to rest, if you want to congratulate me cool, if not cool too, i ain’t going back and forth with yall

I’m not one of the people you’re referring to. You’re the one who created a thread about being a doctor when you know damn well you’re not the type of doctor people expected you to be. Factually, I have more medical education than you just by virtue of going through residency much less my actual requirements to obtain an MD degree. No one is coming to you regularly as a PCP, getting prescriptions from you, or seeking your help in a medical or surgical emergency. You made this fraudulent misleading thread so live with being called out about it. Why did you feel the need to misrepresent yourself in the first place? You deserve to be proud of your accomplishments, just be real about it and stop faking the funk.
 

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Let's put this this thread to rest,

The term doctor is not solely owned by Physicians.

A Doctorate is a terminal degree that you earn when you have attained the highest level of education in a given field.

PhD, EdD, Dds, etc........

Physician = Physician

The OP never claimed to be a physician......

He never claimed to be a physician but he’s educated enough to know that any layman which is 99% of people here would assume him to be purporting himself as a medical doctor which he is not. Someone asked him earlier if he is a medical doctor and he responded “I am a doctor. I am a chiropractor.” Really nikka? If you’re proud of what you accomplished then there’s no need to camouflage about what you actuallly are/do. He should’ve been transparent from the jump and then he wouldn’t have had the wolves jump on him.
 
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Maybe so. I think it’s still a big debate about the MD vs PhD and who has the right to use the actual honorific of “Doctor”.

From what I’ve seen MDs are saying no and all other PhD holders are saying yes. It’s not conclusive. So I will defer to you Dr. Sheminator.

Edit: Just spoke with my brother that’s a DPT at Vandy and was told they are allowed to be referred to as Doctor around Physicians.

But at high pedigree hospitals that are associated with top med schools it appears that the rules are a bit different and reserved solely for MDs and DO or whatever.

True, But tbh MDs shyt on everyone that isn't an MD. I've witnessed residents and med-students call DOs "fake doctors" and Dentists "idiots who couldn't get into med-school". When you get your eyes checked by an optometrist at Eyeglass World, they're still a doctor, they had to go to optometry school to get the training and the license. Same for Podiatrist.
 
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Thread went in. :skip:

Never understood why one would settle for DC with M.D./D.O. as options. Especially D.O.. It literally covers the same thing as DC, offers privileges and prestige in line with MDs, and isn't bogged down with the "subluxation theory pseudoscience" stigma.

Also, you wouldn't have to be categorized as an alternative medicine practitioner. Gettin lumped up with acupuncturists. :skip:

People pick D.O. because they're in the hurry to become a doctor but don't reach the academic requirements to get accepted for an interview and get admitted into med school. Usually what stops them is a low GPA / MCAT score and they refuse to go to Caribbean med schools (who can blame them?) that hunt them down because of it.

Also D.O.s can't practice outside the United States. It isn't recognized in Europe. Just wanted to mention that.
 

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This is an old thread buddy. If you read through it in its entirety, you would have saw that, many of us that disagreed with the OP, have numerous ties to the medical profession and come from medical families. You coming in and telling us water is wet has not enhanced the conversation.

My question regarding credentials was actually posed to a medical professional in this thread. I would actually prefer if a medical professional answer it.

Your response is the typical “I earned it, I wear it” and I’m trying to get beyond that to see if there is actual utility. But I would like to hear from a medical professional.

What?

I don’t care what people and their family members say. Opinions are like a$$holes. If the healthcare system recognizes him as a doctor then that’s what he is, regardless of how you “feel” about what makes someone a doctor.

Furthermore, my response was not simply "I earned it,I wear it.” I clearly indicated the professional value that exists in some professions (specifically RNs) in making the designation in one’s title. You are literally excluded from some jobs if you don’t have it. It’s not like it’s some arbitrary designation that means nothing in the real world.

My overall point was simply that if you were going to use a profession’s professional designation to discredit the OP, then RN-BSN is not an apples to apples comparison because there is clear reasoning for nurses making the specific designation. There is a specific education that one receives as a BSN that you are not exposed to as an RN without years of experience.
 

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Furthermore, my response was not simply "I earned it,I wear it.” I clearly indicated the professional value that exists in some professions (specifically RNs) in making the designation in one’s title. You are literally excluded from some jobs if you don’t have it. It’s not like it’s some arbitrary designation that means nothing in the real world.

“Nursing is filled with multiple specialties requiring varying levels of education, from a high school equivalency degree for nursing assistants to a master’s degree for nurse practitioners. Those wishing to become nurse anesthetists will soon be required to earn doctorates, but otherwise there are presently no practical or clinical differences between nurses who earn master’s degrees and those who get doctorates.”

With More Doctorates in Health Care, a Fight Over a Title

And I will add, there are no practical or clinical differences between ASN’s and BSN’s when 2 years is sufficient to sit for the NCLEX and be qualified for the RN designation. The bachelors requirement for some positions is the nursing profession wanting to legitimize their profession in the eyes of other healthcare professionals whose own educational requirements are more strenuous. It is why the distinction between masters and doctorates is in “degree only” because the profession suffers from a self-perception problem and “more education” assuages that for them.

I’m not asking you to explain anything regarding the medical field to me as I have more than first hand experience with the industry.

My overall point was simply that if you were going to use a profession’s professional designation to discredit the OP, then RN-BSN is not an apples to apples comparison because there is clear reasoning for nurses making the specific designation. There is a specific education that one receives as a BSN that you are not exposed to as an RN without years of experience.

Thats not what I was doing. But you make wrong assumptions being a johnny-come-lately and not reading the thread thoroughly and taking only bits and pieces.
 

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I don’t get what you are trying to get at here. He is a Doctor. Same way DPTs are doctors or Podiatrist are doctors. They are all physicians at the end of the day. He went fours years of undergrad and took four more years in a Chiro school so in the end he is a doctor. He has a doctorate degree that is recognized in all 50 states and by insurance companies.
I think some of us get all that..but what he's saying is similar to someone saying "I'm a Doctor" because he/she has a Doctorate of Philosophy in English, History or Sociology.
We get the technicality of it...but don't be surprised because when people give you the :gucci: when you tell them the deal.
 
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