I'm a Cranky Old Head from the 80s... But Kendrick Lamar is Top 10 All Time

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TPAB>>>

No. I don’t know a Kendrick fan in real life who legit feels this way.

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

No. I don’t know a Kendrick fan in real life who legit feels this way.

Lmao there are many people that think like this in real life, Hood Politics

 

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Lmao there are many people that think like this in real life, Hood Politics

Like I said. No.

 

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He is a top 10 rapper, probably around 8-12 range and anyone who opposed just hating

No he’s not.

 

[Shadow King]

There's an underlying opinion on this site that kendrick is some sort of industry plant who is controlled by "the machine" despite the fact that anyone from California can tell you that kdot had an underground Westcoast run befoe signing with Dr Dre.

Its like the coli thinks because a rapper isn't from where they're from and wasn't known in their city, that must mean their popularity is due to some industry push.

Underlying? It's a clear overtone on this board

i feel you, the voice thing is subjective tho, voice and tone are kinda intangible qualities imo

same homies that used to think kdot sounded indian pre-section 80 now have no problem bumpin him regularly as a west coast staple

kendrick is top 10 imo, but im fine with folks thinking otherwise too

You think a rapper's voice and tone are intangibles? That's probably the most tangible things they bring.

Dunno about top ten but he’s getting there. Very curious about this next album. Also given how he can Cole take longer to release albums than traditional great rappers (Hov/Nas/etc)...how does that impact how they will be viewed? Assuming Kendrick drops this year, his next album likely wouldn’t come until 2025 when he’s 35 or so right. At that point most rappers are finished in terms of releasing consequential albums. Assuming Kendrick’s album this year is at least “good” how do we rate his career?

It was 30 months between GKMC and TPAB
12 between TPAB and Untitled*
13 between Untitled* and DAMN
10 between DAMN and Black Panther*

Should we assume 4 years is the standard moving forward?

 

[Zero]

Anytime someone has to preface giving props to a current rapper with "well I'm an old head from whogivesamotherfukk," its complete bullshyt. You're just trying not to fall behind a genre that's clearly passed you up.

1 star.

 

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Dunno about top ten but he’s getting there. Very curious about this next album. Also given how he can Cole take longer to release albums than traditional great rappers (Hov/Nas/etc)...how does that impact how they will be viewed? Assuming Kendrick drops this year, his next album likely wouldn’t come until 2025 when he’s 35 or so right. At that point most rappers are finished in terms of releasing consequential albums. Assuming Kendrick’s album this year is at least “good” how do we rate his career?

Kendrick is like 38 in 2025. Kendrick is 33 this year. Cole is already 35 going on 36. Drake is 35 this year as well.

 

[Sad Bunny]

I agree.

His catalog is outstanding

 

[BulletProof]

Is that what you want him to do?
Because that’s what he does.

It's his life.


I dont really give a fukk.

 

[T'Challa Trillmonger]

You think a rapper's voice and tone are intangibles? That's probably the most tangible things they bring.

yeah i mean in the sense of, how do you rate one's voice over another? its not like singing where there are technicalities in ranges and notes

for e.g. some people think DOOM got the goat tone/rap voice, some find it too monotone and not dynamic enough ... some think drake's rap voice is too nasally, while the market reflects that his voice may be the most digestible to a mass audience, etc

its a bit subjective

to me, a rapper with a unique/distinct flow or variety of flows, or with technical rhyme structures and writing ability, general song-writing ability (with proof of concept i.e. a successful song for themselves or others) are more "tangible" qualities they bring as an artist, outside of surface level or vanity shyt

you can like/dislike a voice, but you can still identify a complex bar (whether structurally or content wise), or recognize different flows, whether you like it or not, therefore its something that can't be taken away from the artist either way

my two cents edit: i may be using the word intangible and subjective a bit too interchangeably ... yes a voice is a "tangible" thing, but as an artistic quality i find them intangible because its generally hard to have an objective consensus on whats a good or bad voice for rapping

 

[BulletProof]

I love this answer

I’m a be honest

old heads are annoying as fukk


Don’t nobody even ask for their opinion or even talks to them

you could be enjoying today music

and they’ll be like today’s rappers suck!! Raps about nothing with no message


Then you can be like well we got Kendrick Lamar and j Cole

and they’ll be like I’ve never listened and don’t have the time all I do is work and take care of my kids


Clown shyt from old heads

Was born in 86.

Talent is talent.

I dont care how old you are if you have something to say that's worth my attention, I fukks with you.

Kendrick's isn't quite there yet but he definitely has the potential to be one of the GOATS.

Lupe was the last one I thought did but he couldnt make that journey.

Came close and still can.

Kendrick's has all the potential it takes.

Just needs more time to develop and keep up to the strong standard he set up himself for.

Huge fan.

 

[5n0man]

i think this got to explain it to be honest because the dude was making a whole load of noise during the blog era with overly dedicated even before s80 dopeboyz was posting him so nikkas who wasn’t outside for that will think he’s a plant lmao they just don’t realise how powerful the internet is. the dude an incredible artist and rapper but this site mostly loves east coast underground roc marci wannabes.

I grew up in south central and I remember kendrick having a mixtape out when I was in high school (im 30 now).

I remember when he started rapping with ya boy and opening for west coast rappers. That was atleast 2 years before overly dedicated dropped.

 

[BulletProof]

Yes



but he cant since his voice is whiny basura

I dont know which part of this post is gayest.

 

[big bun]

U buggin the fukk out wit the bolded. No way in hell is Section 80 weaker than DAMN or TPAB.

In my opinion it is.

 

[Shadow King]

yeah i mean in the sense of, how do you rate one's voice over another? its not like singing where there are technicalities in ranges and notes

for e.g. some people think DOOM got the goat tone/rap voice, some find it too monotone and not dynamic enough ... some think drake's rap voice is too nasally, while the market reflects that his voice may be the most digestible to a mass audience, etc

its a bit subjective

to me, a rapper with a unique/distinct flow or variety of flows, or with technical rhyme structures and writing ability, general song-writing ability (with proof of concept i.e. a successful song for themselves or others) are more "tangible" qualities they bring as an artist, outside of surface level or vanity shyt

you can like/dislike a voice, but you can still identify a complex bar (whether structurally or content wise), or recognize different flows, whether you like it or not, therefore its something that can't be taken away from the artist either way

my two cents edit: i may be using the word intangible and subjective a bit too interchangeably ... yes a voice is a "tangible" thing, but as an artistic quality i find them intangible because its generally hard to have an objective consensus on whats a good or bad voice for rapping

It's of course more subjective than a sport but to me a rapper's voice is like a hooper's physical tools, it can't be taught but it's apparent and tangibly makes differences. To me a rapper's intangibles would be things outside of music like image, female appeal, navigating and handling media/social media, work ethic, relationship building, etc. The "mental" shyt that pushes a talent over the top. But good shyt for a thorough response.