As I already stated in this thread, my wife and I have planned for our kids to stay home as long as they want so that way they can build whatever type of positive life they want for themselves. Of course, they'll have to work, or go to school whether it be college or learn a trade. I'm guessing you don't understand how a family builds a legacy. Its by helping each other, not by throwing them out on their ass to face a cold world. Outside of the walls of my home, nobody is going to love my kids as much as us, their parents. They already learn by going to school how fukked up things can be. All this, "to be a real man, you have to struggle and learn how to face adversity", is dumb. Real men come from all walks of life. Even rich ones. No matter where one lives, they are going to face adversity.