"If you're poor & White, you're seen as bottom of the totem pole."

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Long story short, the quote in the title is from a CAC who used to live in the same apartment as me years and years ago. We talk now and again, usually discussing race.

His story:
Comes from a family of geniuses. Both of his parents work in biomedical science. He's the middle child.

His older brother graduated from Oxford. His younger sister graduated from Princeton.

He was meant to go to an MIT school but he got addicted to meth and ended up not going. He was a fukk up for years living in the streets and being in and out of prison. His family completely cut him off.

When I finished college I moved into the same apartment as him and we just hit it off. We've been in touch again recently and he told me straight (I'm. Paraphrasing) :

"being white isn't great unless you're rich and white. When you're poor and white, unless you're a first generation immigrant, everyone looks down on you for wasting your white opportunity, especially white people. You can't truly enjoy whiteness unless you have money. I'd trade my whiteness If I could be rich and any other ethnicity.

When you're poor and non-white, society doesn't have the same expectations for you. People are more sympathetic (mainly quietly) knowing that the odds are against a minority from a poor background. When you over achieve and are a minority, you're seen as "special" and one of a kind. That's why white people love Jordan, Lebron, Michael Jackson etc.

The fact they defied all expectations and prospered in a racist system is like a miracle story to them. When they see poor white people, they look at us with contempt. Like a wasted opportunity. Yeah, that are more more opprtunities to pull yourself out of poverty if you're white but unless you have the right connections or have the right surname, no one will help you."

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People look down on him because he’s a meth head. He’s mixing race in the situation only because it was probably mentioned prior to his rant about his personal experiences...
He's been clean for a while now. Even though he's been straight, he claims that people still look down on him for having a basic job even without knowing his background and story.

Your cac friend sounds like a loser.
He is.
 

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He's been clean for a while now. Even though he's been straight, he claims that people still look down on him for having a basic job even without knowing his background and story.
It’s probably all evident though; the meth, the mentality. People don’t have to verbally communicate things all the time for others to get a sense of someone.

he’s just feeling sorry for himself. Which I can’t blame him because I’ve never done and been addicted to meth..,
 

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He's one of the few CACS that are open and honest about racism. It's always good to get Intel. :yeshrug:
I guess breh. I just see it as pointless to talk about race with them. They will either come at you with the rhetoric of how we're in this together, it's the rulers at top that's the problem or it will become a petty back and forth about what things either side should be doing so we can reach the goal of "equality"
 
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When I finished college I moved into the same apartment as him and we just hit it off.

So you, a college educated Black man, moved into the same apartment building as a meth addicted CaC who had been cut off from his family.....how in the hell is he bottom of the totem pole?

Where do you think the poor drug addicted Black folk are living?
 

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It’s probably all evident though; the meth, the mentality. People don’t have to verbally communicate things all the time for others to get a sense of someone.

he’s just feeling sorry for himself. Which I can’t blame him because I’ve never done and been addicted to meth..,
Yeah. I told him straight I had no sympathy for him for wasting his whiteness.. which did kinda prove his point. :russ:

In fairness, he acknowledged he's fukk up. He just states that being white isn't great unless you have money. You're still very socially limited and ostracised when you're poor and white.

I guess breh. I just see it as pointless to talk about race with them. They will either come at you with the rhetoric of how we're in this together, it's rulers at top that's the problem or it will become a petty back and forth about what things either side should be doing so we can reach the goal of "equality"
To be fair to him, he doesn't preach that. He says straight up that it's every man for himself. I don't really trust CACS but when you have nothing to lose, honesty is the only thing you can control.

He said if he had not fukked up, he would've enjoyed the perks of being a rich white man and only feel guilty now and again. Why wouldn't he take advantage of a system that benefits him? :yeshrug:
 

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:mjlol: nah dont fall for that unless your rich and white, it sucks to be white.


Poor cacs are still looked at by society as been better than being black (regardless of class status) poor whites look down on blacks something fierce.( at least am not a negro mentality) Most open racist are what we would call poor or struggling cacs. the rich ones ( most of them ) are bit more refined and not as direct with it.


Now from our point of view (as black folks) we know that if your a broke cac in a system build by you ,for you and u aint make it then u aint sh**:russ::russ:

West Ham issue lifetime ban to fan for racist taunt directed at away supporters | Daily Mail Online

this is from a football match, a west ham fan got called fat, and his response was at least he's white:russ::mjpls:
 
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Long story short, the quote in the title is from a CAC who used to live in the same apartment as me years and years ago. We talk now and again, usually discussing race.

His story:
Comes from a family of geniuses. Both of his parents work in biomedical science. He's the middle child.

His older brother graduated from Oxford. His younger sister graduated from Princeton.

He was meant to go to an MIT school but he got addicted to meth and ended up not going. He was a fukk up for years living in the streets and being in and out of prison. His family completely cut him off.

When I finished college I moved into the same apartment as him and we just hit it off. We've been in touch again recently and he told me straight (I'm. Paraphrasing) :

"being white isn't great unless you're rich and white. When you're poor and white, unless you're a first generation immigrant, everyone looks down on you for wasting your white opportunity, especially white people. You can't truly enjoy whiteness unless you have money. I'd trade my whiteness If I could be rich and any other ethnicity.

When you're poor and non-white, society doesn't have the same expectations for you. People are more sympathetic (mainly quietly) knowing that the odds are against a minority from a poor background. When you over achieve and are a minority, you're seen as "special" and one of a kind. That's why white people love Jordan, Lebron, Michael Jackson etc.

The fact they defied all expectations and prospered in a racist system is like a miracle story to them. When they see poor white people, they look at us with contempt. Like a wasted opportunity. Yeah, that are more more opprtunities to pull yourself out of poverty if you're white but unless you have the right connections or have the right surname, no one will help you."

Thoughts?

He got you buying into his white-splaining.

They don’t put expectations on ADOS because they see us as monkeys.

They put expectations on him because they see him as white and capable.

If they saw him as lower than us they would never have had an expectation set to even gauge his success to. That’s why in your example about ADOS success makes sense because if you’re on crack in the hood, you just doing what you do but if you are Michael Jackson you performed above their expectations. shyt a nikka with a good job that takes care of his kids is beyond a lot of these people’s expectations...that’s how little they think of us.

The disdain for him comes in that he had life set up for him as a white man and he squandered and chose to live like “the monkeys”. They don’t see him as less than us, the see him as a perpetual “slummer”...gentlemen only slum on the weekends in the dark alleys while he is relishing in it.

That muhfukka could take a shower and elevate back up...ADOS don’t have that privilege. That’s why you can’t be accepting this liberal fukk’s take on shyt cuz they will die for their privilege while simultaneously talking about equality.
 
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