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i did answer it:



and you're right, i am bigoted towards christians/religious folk. i find them ridiculous for putting so much "faith" in something completely unfounded. it's not just conservative base, it's government period. this is still a "christian nation," unfortunately. your beliefs in sky daddy hinders progress in this country.

Have the beliefs of the multitude of Christian scientists and thinkers who are superior to you intellectually also hindering the progress of this country?
 

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Have the beliefs of the multitude of Christian scientists and thinkers who are superior to you intellectually also hindering the progress of this country?

no, but scientist != government. furthermore, religious scientist make up less than 20% of all scientist, so they are a complete non-factor regardless. as much as christians hate on athiest/agnostic, they're the ones creating medical breakthroughs, so you hypocrites can live longer
 

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Human beings have a natural inclination to believe in God. This is how weve been the majority of our history.

This does not mean that certain "gods or god" exist. Throughout human history and in many societies, the idea of what "god(s)" is has changed ; Take for example the polytheistic pantheon of the ancient eygptions-their deities usually matched or represented the natural forces of phenomena in that region. and then compare it to other religions in regions through out human history; why is it that these idea's of religion never constant or the same? How do you know that these ideas of religion are not conditioned and created by ourselves to match are own environment , that these deities are not man-made?
 
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If God gives you clear proof he exists that destroys the whole point of faith. He wants you to choose to believe in him. I ant choose to believe the sky is yellow if i see its blue. Once you put faith in him and begin to pray and pay more attention to your life youll see that many things around you validate his existence. People only take proof they are willing to accept regardless of its its real proof.
I was a Christian my whole life. Extra serious about it for 5 years. I had faith and repeatedly asked for god's "direction", "voice", etc. Never heard anything. Asked for "god" to distinguish himself from the voices in my head. Nothing. And I had very trusted ministers tell me be patient. Once I realized that most of the voices in my head that I thought were coming from god were simply my own conscience talking to me, that opened up everything because now quite frankly I believe the idea of god talking to someone is BS. Really what it is, is your conscience talking to you and directing you.
yeah, i can't even imagine what being shackled to religion is like. my parents never tried to push religious views on me, and would often get frustrated at my questions.
You got it good. I can't even tell my parents or family that I'm agnostic. They'll probably disown me or something. And it's crazy because I'm really close to my family, especially my parents. Not sure what I'd do without them. On Sundays they ask me if I went to church, and either I say I went (lie), or come up with a reason for why I didn't go. Then dad gives me lectures on what he reads, why its important and asks if I read the bible. All I could do was put on the broadway acting show. Mom asks me to say a prayer over the food when we go to lunch and I say something "quick and good enough" even though I don't mean it.

Two weeks ago, my grandfather, who never speaks about church or religion randomly said "Whatever you do, do not stop believing in god". It was ackward as hell coming from him.
 

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no, but scientist != government. furthermore, religious scientist make up less than 20% of all scientist, so they are a complete non-factor regardless. as much as christians hate on athiest/agnostic, they're the ones creating medical breakthroughs, so you hypocrites can live longer

Yes, but cumulatively even a number close to 20% in the scientific community is significant .

So as I said, there are Christian scientists and thinkers who are contributing gainfully to society while you sit on your computer castigating people with your misapplied dogma.
 

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if u don't believe in a higher power...what do u believe in? u cant say self....because other people play a factor when it comes to opportunity
 

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I think its fair to assume the universe had a beginning because thats the general scientific consesus and it just makes sense .Things are expanding from a single point which can be seen and if the universe always existed we would be Cold Death status by now and all the stars would have burned out.
God doesn't need a creater because he exists out of that chain of causation. Time doesn't apply to him nor space nor matter. And our idea of rationality and consciousness is different even between us so of course it would be worlds different to a supreme being. Anything that can create the complexity of the universe and the complexity of the human mind we can't relate to or undesrtand unless that being wants us to.

You're correct the universe is expanding. But the big bang is believed to be followed by a big crunch where everything will contract and create another big bang. this process could go on forever. But I digress because there is still no reason to believe a god caused it.
Again, you cant say that everything requires a cause ...but god doesn't. either everything needs a cause or it doesn't.
 
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