If You Have A Problem With How Eminem Raps, You Should Feel the Same About Talib

[JustCKing]

Im white now. You dont believe that. You're probably white. You support black genocide music

Whatever race you are isn't the issue. I think what he's pointing out is that how can you big up Eminem and then talk down on the negativity in Black artists. Some see it as you making it seem like black equates to negativity and white equates to positivity. For example, you point out the murder, dope dealing, gang affiliations etc. in successful rap songs, but Eminem has popular songs where he's murdering his own mother and girl friend. He's talking about drug usage. Those songs helped make him sell all those records and mainstream America was eating it up.

 

[JustCKing]

I don't have a problem with the way Eminem's rhymes are structured. The problem that is the forced punchlines and the delivery. I find the screaming more annoying than the accents. On Relapse, the accents complimented the flow. The screaming doesn't necessarily compliment anything especially when he's doing the double time flow.

 

[pointproven214]

I don't have a problem with the way Eminem's rhymes are structured. The problem that is the forced punchlines and the delivery. I find the screaming more annoying than the accents. On Relapse, the accents complimented the flow. The screaming doesn't necessarily compliment anything especially when he's doing the double time flow.

using different dialects help make the unrhymeable rhymeable.

 

[Zero]

Talib after Quality....

 

[Zero]

but Talib actually saying something

No offense breh, but this is how a lot of corny and lowkey wack conscious rappers got passes in the mid-00s :iseeu:

 

[DeuceCypherUno]

This should just be a Talib appreciation thread tbh.

basically

no need to put down another rapper to appreciate one of the GODS

 

[PhonZhi]

Whatever race you are isn't the issue. I think what he's pointing out is that how can you big up Eminem and then talk down on the negativity in Black artists. Some see it as you making it seem like black equates to negativity and white equates to positivity. For example, you point out the murder, dope dealing, gang affiliations etc. in successful rap songs, but Eminem has popular songs where he's murdering his own mother and girl friend. He's talking about drug usage. Those songs helped make him sell all those records and mainstream America was eating it up.

1 white rapper. Thats all yall can name. Meanwhile i can name a boatload of rappers (and even r&b artists) that floods the urban airwaves with poison. THATS my point. Very rarely is pop radio playing music with that type of content. I guarantee you that if you turn on your local hiphop station RIGHT NOW, the song will be about killing blacks, pushing dope, etc. And do i need to make a Jadakiss appreciation thread to offset me appreciating the lyricism skills of Eminem? Jada raps SOLELY about pushing dope and killing blacks. I think he's a dope lyricist too. Im not getting yalls' point. I think Rick Ross is a talented lyricist also and we all know what he raps about. Maybe yall aren't aware, but im a HUGE hiphop fan. Im just now becoming "aware" of its effects on our community. That doesn't mean that i haven't listened to "poisonous" rappers in the past and formed a conclusion of their rap skills.

 

[JustCKing]

1 white rapper. Thats all yall can name. Meanwhile i can name a boatload of rappers (and even r&b artists) that floods the urban airwaves with poison. THATS my point. Very rarely is pop radio playing music with that type of content. I guarantee you that if you turn on your local hiphop station RIGHT NOW, the song will be about killing blacks, pushing dope, etc. And do i need to make a Jadakiss appreciation thread to offset me appreciating the lyricism skills of Eminem? Jada raps SOLELY about pushing dope and killing blacks. I think he's a dope lyricist too. Im not getting yalls' point. I think Rick Ross is a talented lyricist also and we all know what he raps about. Maybe yall aren't aware, but im a HUGE hiphop fan. Im just now becoming "aware" of its effects on our community. That doesn't mean that i haven't listened to "poisonous" rappers in the past and formed a conclusion of their rap skills.

How many non-Blacks are successful in rap though? Most, if not of the successful non-Black rappers rap about negativity. Eminem talks about killing his own people, drugs, etc. Mac Miller's music is littered with him getting high on various drugs. Machine Gun Kelly?

In terms of other genres, there's poison spread throughout. Take that song by Tove Lo for example, it's as deplorable as the Usher song that was discussed on here. There's other songs that dominate Pop radio that are the same.

It's not even about what's flooding the airwaves, it's the comparisons that you draw. Like when you say an Usher feature on a white artist's song has him making positive/uplifting music and it's targeted towards a white audience. Then you say his own song is poisonous and is targeted towards the Urban audience. It's as if you're equating positivity to whites and negativity to blacks. You did the same with Pharrell's "Happy" saying the song was geared towards a white audience in spite of that song being #1 at Urban as well. Yet you said his guest appearance on "Move That Dope" was him catering to Urban audiences when it wasn't even his song and that song wasn't as big as "Happy" at Urban radio.

 

[BXKingPin82]

No offense breh, but this is how a lot of corny and lowkey wack conscious rappers got passes in the mid-00s :iseeu:

Im not the biggest fan of homie but i fukk with that hi-tek and kweli shyt
i just cant get into eminem
Never could

Pause

 

[PhonZhi]

How many non-Blacks are successful in rap though? Most, if not of the successful non-Black rappers rap about negativity. Eminem talks about killing his own people, drugs, etc. Mac Miller's music is littered with him getting high on various drugs. Machine Gun Kelly?

In terms of other genres, there's poison spread throughout. Take that song by Tove Lo for example, it's as deplorable as the Usher song that was discussed on here. There's other songs that dominate Pop radio that are the same.

It's not even about what's flooding the airwaves, it's the comparisons that you draw. Like when you say an Usher feature on a white artist's song has him making positive/uplifting music and it's targeted towards a white audience. Then you say his own song is poisonous and is targeted towards the Urban audience. It's as if you're equating positivity to whites and negativity to blacks. You did the same with Pharrell's "Happy" saying the song was geared towards a white audience in spite of that song being #1 at Urban as well. Yet you said his guest appearance on "Move That Dope" was him catering to Urban audiences when it wasn't even his song and that song wasn't as big as "Happy" at Urban radio.

That Tove Lo song is a rarety on pop radio. Its like the opposite. 10% of the songs are like that on pop mainstream, meanwhile 90% of the songs are like that on urban mainstream. Its not even close dawg. And when's the last time MGK or Mac Miller got mainstream play? Last time i heard Mac on the radio he was rapping about love.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

talib's one of those rappers i despise actually . funny you mention him

 

[PhonZhi]

talib's one of those rappers i despise actually . funny you mention him

What turns you off about him? And whats your opinion of EM?

 

[wet landscapes]

You sure care alot about the white community.

how are you a black eminem stan if eminems music only reaches the white community

 

[PhonZhi]

how are you a black eminem stan if eminems music only reaches the white community

You tell me, according to the coli Em gets ZERO play in the black community

 

[ZEB WALTON]

What turns you off about him? And whats your opinion of EM?

he just has a shyt voice ehh lyrics and a wac image

listen to respiration, his verse ruins a perfect mos def/beat combo... until he shows up

em is white popeles god. my cousins LOVE him. hes a GREAT rapper, one of the best oure rymers ever but his subject matter is wack and only has a cfew real good songs. he usually used wack beats too