If You Could Live Without Oxygen, Could You Talk

[Bud Bundy]

I just thought of something friends. Anyone who could live withoutt he use of oxygen would have to use telepathy to talk. It seems that breathing is a primary component of language and without air, you cannot speak. Wow, friends.

so we never would have come up sign language or just use markings?

 

[daze23]

I made sure I said "air"

without oxygen we can still talk as long as we have lungs and there's some 'air' to pump in and out. depending on the density of these gasses, it would probably change the pitch of our voices, similar to helium

and like I said, if there were no 'air' in the OP's scenario then the sound wouldn't travel, as well as our vocal cords being useless. in that case I think we would develop intricate body language. body language is already very important in our communication. we try to get away from it with this text-only internet communication, and the most popular things are smilies and memes

 

[msims]

In this scenario, you would still be able to speak.

The body doesn't need "oxygen" to speak; it needs to inhale and exhale. As long as the respiration process still takes place, you'd still be able to speak. You would just be breathing in useless molecules into your body, and then releasing them right back out.

 

[L&HH]

In this scenario, you would still be able to speak.

The body doesn't need "oxygen" to speak; it needs to inhale and exhale. As long as the respiration process still takes place, you'd still be able to speak. You would just be breathing in useless molecules into your body, and then releasing them right back out.

Yeah breh the thread is confusing. Some ppl such as yourself are under the assumption that the op meant no oxygen, others are under the assumption that he meant no air. It seems to me he used the terms interchangeably when in fact they are not interchangeable. Clarification from the T/S would be appreciated.

If there were no oxygen one could argue that we can still talk. In my opinion this is what should be argued as the latter really doesn't bring much of a debate.

If there were no air, as already stated we can't "talk" (in the traditional sense of using vocal/audible communication) because sound needs a medium with which to travel.

Spoiler

I might just post in here all day tomorrow. I have an interview on Friday and ya'll got me in here speaking all proper and eloquently and shyt.

 

[SquirtleSwag]

There is sound in outer space though. Do we hear it from waves that hit the earth or from sattelites that are already in space?

sound needs a medium to pass through (i.e oxygen, water etc) so unless there are gas clouds nearby there would be no sound.

 

[Type Username Here]

Mowgli Aliases correcting other Mowgli Aliases?

Does that mean we get double or triple Mowgli in any thread involving homosexuality? It's going to be a Closeted Gay Pride Parade in those threads.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Mowgli Aliases correcting other Mowgli Aliases?

Does that mean we get double or triple Mowgli in any thread involving homosexuality? It's going to be a Closeted Gay Pride Parade in those threads.

We're two aliases away from Mowgli rainbow Voltron.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Yeah breh the thread is confusing. Some ppl such as yourself are under the assumption that the op meant no oxygen, others are under the assumption that he meant no air. It seems to me he used the terms interchangeably when in fact they are not interchangeable. Clarification from the T/S would be appreciated.

If there were no oxygen one could argue that we can still talk. In my opinion this is what should be argued as the latter really doesn't bring much of a debate.

If there were no air, as already stated we can't "talk" (in the traditional sense of using vocal/audible communication) because sound needs a medium with which to travel.

Spoiler

I might just post in here all day tomorrow. I have an interview on Friday and ya'll got me in here speaking all proper and eloquently and shyt.

There is a lot of speculation as to what i was talking about but honestly i dont think that it matters. Even though oxygen and air are different things being that oxygen is an element and air is a combination of elements, without oxygen you cannot breath and without air, you cannot breath. Lets just say, that without air, you cannot breath to avoid getting into a game of semantics, friend.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

so we never would have come up sign language or just use markings?

Yes i guess so. How advanced can a society be without spoken words? Those demons in Prometheus i guess used sounds, bleeps, flashing lights and colors to communicate.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Yes i guess so. How advanced can a society be without spoken words? Those demons in Prometheus i guess used sounds, bleeps, flashing lights and colors to communicate.

You keep using your own frame of reference. As long we can communicate complex ideas then we can advance.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

Hold your breath and speak then put your hands to your mouth. How can you use words without air escaping your lungs.

Construct syllogy using your argument.

1 human language requires breathing
2 breathing requires oxygen
-----------------------
Language requires oxygen

Does that really make sense to you?


First off, think of the universe of language. by that i mean, list all the languages that you know off.

dolphins have language. Elephants have a language, the deaf have language. Dolphins use sound that travels through the water. Elephants use a type of morse-code that travels through the ground. both their languages have syntax.

humans communicate with more than just words. our facial expressions and body language are also forms of communication. Words spoke with a smile are different that words spoken a with frown.


The universe of spoken language is only a subset of the universe of language. It's not a requirement or a prerequisite for language.

 

[The Real]

There is no life without oxygen and therefore there are no words unless they are in your mind.

Several species from the Loricifera phylum don't breathe oxygen and don't need it to survive. Although there are no animals now that speak without breathing oxygen, there is nothing preventing such an animal from existing. Don't limit your conception of life, friend.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Several species from the Loricifera phylum don't breathe oxygen and don't need it to survive. Although there are no animals now that speak without breathing oxygen, there is nothing preventing such an animal from existing. Don't limit your conception of life, friend.

They also cannot speak so its apparent that breathing is a primary component of communication, friend.

Still i cant imagine what an organism like this would have to say O friend friend friend, are you jesting me? I found this thoroughly humorous like lol, friend.

 

[The Real]

They also cannot speak so its apparent that breathing is a primary component of communication, friend.

That is an illogical statement, friend. The fact that all speaking organisms breathe oxygen /= breathing oxygen is necessary for speech. It is necessary for our speech as human beings, evolved to our particular context, but not for all speech. That is correlation and not causal necessity.

Still i cant imagine what an organism like this would have to say O friend friend friend, are you jesting me? I found this thoroughly humorous like lol, friend.

That organism wouldn't have anything to say, since it cannot speak, but it's completely possible and consistent with nature that speaking organisms that didn't breathe oxygen could exist, which was the point, friend.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

That is an illogical statement, friend. The fact that all speaking organisms breathe oxygen /= breathing oxygen is necessary for speech. It is necessary for our speech as human beings, evolved to our particular context, but not for all speech. That is correlation and not causal necessity.



That organism wouldn't have anything to say, since it cannot speak, but it's completely possible and consistent with nature that speaking organisms that didn't breathe oxygen could exist, which was the point, friend.

So you think one day this organism will become a human being and will speak but wont breath? SO i guess we can move the goalpost and say, breathing is a requirement for speech yes, friend?