If you are not a white male, July 4th is not your independence day!

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So you are going to let history dictate your part as a citizen of a country IN THE PRESENT?

You are going to let racists and slave owners define your citizenship?

Well, guess what, that's exactly what they want you to do. It makes their job easier.

Instead of demanding your rights, equality, and participation as a citizen, you choose to be an internet rebel.


You need to go read some Thurgood Marshall, Dr. King, and Frederick Douglass and understand that they drew their power from a sense of American ideals and political philosophy. They used this country's own LAWS and Ideals against those who wished to outcast them.

How powerful is that?
 

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Does anyone actually "celebrate" 4h of july.. like i never see anyone runnin around with flags.. nikkas just happy to be off.. spend time with friends and fam, eat and drink... aint thinkin bout that independece shyt
 

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EXCERPT from Dr. King's famous speech:


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But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. So we have come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we have come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.


It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds." But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this check -- a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice. We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quick sands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

He used American ideals, values, laws, and philosophy because he WAS American. He didn't run from it, he embraced it and used it to point out the utter ignorance of the people, government and its outdated racist laws.
 

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French and Greek ideals you mean. :manny:

Some of them, sure. As well as Scottish, Roman and English.

But a lot of the most important concepts and laws were American in nature.


Plus, Dr. King was heavily influenced by this dude:

Henry David Thoreau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One of the most underrated Americans ever, and by the accounts of Dr. King and Ghandi, their direct influence in matters of civil disobedience.
 

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:lolbron: This fool said some gems from the old thread and it was just him quoting him self.

Ole "somebody acknowledge and listen to what I have to say" chump
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If you feel that strongly about it, why stay in america?

I celebrate it because :pacspit::pacspit::pacspit::pacspit::pacspit: on the british at every single opportunity, one of the worst civilizations in human history


how is the moral track record of the United States any better than the British? :what:
 

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I agree, but it ain't gon stop me from throwing/attending bbqs and fukking with fireworks and bytches though. I was born here, but I'm not all that patriotic though. I refuse to celebrate a country thats been shyttin on us for over 300 years. Yeah perceptions have changed over the last 30ish years, but I ain't naive enough to think shyt that sweet out here.

That being said, I wouldn't rather be anywhere else. I guess I could celebrate that :manny:
 
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