If Trump were to win how will things be any different/worse for black people?

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Coded. Pay attention.
Why would you vote for a man who has no political experience, no diplomatic experience, has no fukkin idea how government works, tried to get John Kasic to be his Vice President -- and told Kasic that Kasic would run the day to day job of the Presidency...then when Kasic asked what Donald would do, was told "he'd be making America great again".... been a bankruptcy queen his entire life, banned black people from living in his buildings and was against the Central Park Five?

Why, you fukkin jagaloon?

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Yeah and the hatred would stop right there, right? Black gonna be living good under Trump right?
That's the whole point of this thread. Everything people say Trump will do to us is already happening under a black democratic president. Racism, hate etc is already happening so again how is his presidency going to make things worse for black people when they already are?
It's almost you nikkas live in some alternate America where things are great for black people and the evil trump will take it all away. He can't do any worse than what we already facing and if a black man with black kids didn't give a fukk about black issues what makes you think some rich white woman would?
 

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You guys keep posting this thinking and it seems fairly short sighted and the answer is obvious to me. I'm really worried if you can't see the issue here.

If you spend any period of time looking at the thoughts of Trump suppoters, his supporters are some of the most hardcore racists our there. They view trump as being an advocate of their nationalistic and ultra right wing way of thinking. A trump presidency allows these individuals to feel their positions have validity and becoming more tolerated which in turn gives them more political and social clout to move things further to the right in this country.



Also, regardless of your feelings for Hillary, you need to ask, given 3 supreme court justice picks are possibly coming up, not to mention federal judge selections, who do you think will pick choices better for black people? At worst, the democrats will pick someone who does nothing for black people while republicans will pick someone to actively work against them,
 

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Let's lay it out all at once, with links. No one can deny this crap.



1927: Fred Trump, Donald Trump's father, is arrested for "refusing to disperse" at a KKK rally. Donald Trump claims that it wasn't his father, never lived at that address, blah blah. Five different newspaper accounts show that it WAS his dad, marriage records confirm his dad was still at that same address even 9 years later, the 7 arrested were all "berobed" and wearing Klan gear.


1940s-1960s: Fred Trump, who has been building his real estate empire since 1920, becomes well-known for his blatant segregation, keeping Black people out of his desirable units and forcing them into the project units. White folk singer Woody Guthrie, who lived in a Trump building for two years, writes multiple lyrics about how racist Trump and his building projects are.

Beach Haven looks like heaven
Where no black ones come to roam!
No, no, no! Old Man Trump!
Old Beach Haven ain't my home!


I suppose
Old Man Trump knows
Just how much
Racial Hate
he stirred up
In the bloodpot of human hearts
When he drawed
That color line
Here at his
Eighteen hundred family project ...


1972: Donald Trump takes over his father's empire and continued the segregation policies, only it's illegal now. A government sting after many complaints finds that Donald Trump's men are claiming apartments aren't available when Black people come around, but apartments are suddenly free when White people are there. Four Trump agents admit to coding applications to show which applicants are Black, a superintendent says he was told to send Black applicants to the central office but accept White applicants on site, and three doormen admit to being told to discourage Black persons from renting at their properties.


1975: When Trump finally settles the housing discrimination case and is forced to open up all his properties to Black renters, he claims he "won" because he won't have to "rent to welfare recipients"....continuing the false narrative he'd been pushing the last two years that all the Black people he had been keeping out were just welfare recipients.


1980s: "And isn't it funny. I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. . . . I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control." - Donald Trump, as quoted by the president of Trump Plaza


1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, told the New Yorker that when he worked for Trump in the 1980s, Black employees would be shuffled off the casino floor when Trump and his wife came around.


1989: “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. If I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.” – Donald Trump in an NBC interview


1989: Trump spends $85,000 to take out full-page ads across New York newspapers with racially charged attacks against the five young Black men accused in the "Central Park 5" trial, calling for the death penalty, attacking the defendants with race-baiting assertions, and mocking Mayor Koch’s call to "end hate in our hearts.


1991: Trump Plaza is fined $200,000 by the New Jersey Gaming Commission for consistently removing the Black dealers whenever Robert LiButti, a racist high roller associated with the Gambino family mafia, came in. The jury heard evidence that LiButti stated frequently used offensive slurs for Black people and women and “did not want women, blacks or other minorities dealing or supervising his games,” and Trump’s casino management complied.


1993: During Congressional testimony on Indian gambling, Donald Trump claims that the Indians in question "don't look like Indians to me", states that the Indian casinos will be cesspools of organized crime, and mocks the ability of "Indian chiefs" to stand up to mob figures. The committee is flabbergasted and one congressman states: “In the 19 years I have been on this committee, I have never seen such irresponsible remarks,”


1996: After having spent years trying to block Indiana from getting casinos, Trump tries to get one of the new licences approved for Gary. In order to head off a Black businessman competing for the license, Trump makes a deal with 8 minority investors, mostly Black men, to join in on his bid so that he'll get the approval of the state of Indiana. Once Trump gets the license, he drops all the Black investors, giving them nothing, and goes on alone. He also dropped a commitment he had made to give 7.5% ownership in the casino to a charitable foundation in Gary, which was 80% Black at the time. Trump was sued by the minority investors, eventually settling with six of them for $2.2 million and having the other two awarded $1.3 million by the court. However, the charitable money he had promised was never seen by the charities he had pledged it to.


1996: Trump is sued by 20 Black workers for turning back on a promise he had made to hire primarily minorities at the casino.


1990s: Trump is accused by his ex-wife of having kept a book of Hitler's speeches next to his bed and reading it every night. Trump denies that he ever read the book, but admits to owning it.


2000: As the Mohawk Nation tries to get permission to build a casino in New York, Donald Trump creates a fake nonprofit charity which begins taking out racist ads against the Mohawks. In the ads, Trump claims that gambling creates social ills, that Indian casinos are especially violent, that Indians have a history of criminal activity, and that the Indians will attract drug users. Trump is fined $250,000 for violating election law when it is found out that he was behind the ads.


2011: Trump enters politics by claiming that Barack Obama was actually born in Kenya and is ineligible to be president. At various times he claims special insider knowledge that Obama's birth certificate is false and that he is really an African by birth.


2011: Trump implies that President Obama only got into Columbia and Harvard Law due to affirmative action, casting aspersions on his intellect and qualifications.


2011: “I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.” - Donald Trump on Albany’s Talk 1300


2013: “Sadly, because president Obama has done such a poor job as president, you won’t see another black president for generations!” - From Trump's twitter


2013: After the Central Park 5 are shown to be innocent and released from prison, Donald Trump continues to attack them, saying, "what were they doing in the park anyway?"


2014: When a settlement was made compensating the Central Park 5 due to their unjust imprisonment, Donald Trump wrote an editorial for the New York Daily News denouncing the payments, saying "these young men do not exactly have the pasts of angels" and strongly implying they were actually guilty.


2014: Trump goes on a rant during a campaign event where he claims that Mexican immigrants are "rapists" who are "not you" and says they are bringing drugs and crime into the country. Later, defending the rant during an interview, he calls Mexican immigrants "killers".


2014: “Our great African American President hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore.” - from Trump's twitter account


2015: Trump tweets fake statistic from White nationalists claiming that 81% of White murder victims were killed by Black people. The actual number is 15%.


2015: Trump claims he saw thousands of Muslims on Jersey City roofs cheering the falling of the towers, even though no one else has ever reported seeing such a sight and the television footage Trump claims he saw does not exist. This is only one of dozens of lies Trump makes about Muslim people, immigrants, and refugees. At least four Muslims are assaulted by people who yell vocal support of Trump's anti-Muslim policies either during or immediately after the attack


2015: “Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.” – Trump press release


2015: “Jeb Bush has to like the Mexican Illegals because of his wife." - Trump's twitter


2015: When a Black Lives Matter protester is beaten up at a Trump rally, Trump states, "Maybe [the protester] should have been roughed up. It was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.” This is one of numerous times that Black or Latino protesters are beaten up or called racial slurs during Trump rallies.


2016: "There are places in America that are among the most dangerous in the world. You go to places like Oakland. Or Ferguson. The crime numbers are worse. Seriously." - Donald Trump tweet


2016: When asked a question about the vocal support that David Duke had given him, Trump refuses to reject the support and twice pretends that he doesn't know enough about David Duke and the KKK to comment. It is later shown that Trump has known Duke for at least 20 years and spoken about him in public before.


2016: Trump's twitter account is shown to be repeatedly re-tweeting at least 75 statements of members of the "White Genocide" movement, who claim that White people need to band together to prevent the "genocide" that other races are subjecting them to.


2016: Trump repeatedly refers to Elizabeth Warren as "Pocahontas" in order to mock her disputed Native American ancestery and his supporters begin responding with "Indian war whoops" whenever he speaks her name at rallies.


2016: Trump makes a crazy string of racist attacks against the judge presiding over his Trump University case, claiming the judge cannot sit on his case because he's "Mexican", despite the judge having been born in Indiana and lived his entire life in the USA.


2016: A Reuters opinion poll finds that Trump supporters are "much more likely to describe Black people as "criminal," "unintelligent," "lazy" and "violent" than supporters of other candidates, with half of Trump supporters using one or more of those words.


2016: When Black protesters are removed from his rallies, Trump begins repeatedly referring to the "good old days" when they'd "rip him out of his seat so fast" and "used to treat them very, very rough" and "be carried out in a stretcher folks", obviously hearkening back to how police abused Black protesters during the Civil Rights Movement of Trump's teenage years.


2016: Trump receives the endorsement of White Nationalist organizations and blogsites the Daily Stormer, the National Policy Institute, American Renaissance, Hunter Wallace, the Virginia KKK, the American Freedom Party, and the League of the South. The Trump campaign even names William Johnson, chair of the White Nationalist organization "American Freedom Party", as one of their national delegates for California.


2016: Despite over 40 years at the top of the business world, "No black or Hispanic executive has ever played a prominent public role in the Trump business organization...the Trump team has not presented to the press the name of a single key executive who is either Hispanic or African American."


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That's the whole point of this thread. Everything people say Trump will do to us is already happening under a black democratic president. Racism, hate etc is already happening so again how is his presidency going to make things worse for black people when they already are?
It's almost you nikkas live in some alternate America where things are great for black people and the evil trump will take it all away. He can't do any worse than what we already facing and if a black man with black kids didn't give a fukk about black issues what makes you think some rich white woman would?
Have some sense of a larger fukking world view for once.

A Donald Trump presidency is liable to start a global economic disaster..and that affects EVERYONE.
 

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Btw this thread isn't an endorsement of trump. I will vote Hilary but still knowing whoever wins my situation and the situation of most black people won't change. Fact.
 

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If Trump wins, I'm dropping my album titled "One Of The Good Ones". It's gonna be about me not blaming any of my problems on this "myth of white supremacy" and I will side strongly with the NRA & the 2nd Amendment. My 1st single will touch on those issues. It's the scathing, super patriotic "Bootstraps, 2 Gats"
 

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The fact is that both Democrats and Republicans don't give a fukk about Blacks or Latinos in this country. They pimp us for our votes and then ponder on what scraps and crumbs they're willing to let us 'win' to keep us feeling like we accomplished anything.

That's why we see both the Black and Latino communities struggling and still fighting over the same issues for decades now, with hardly anything to show for it.

Surely there's a lot more at play here, but its getting too obvious to ignore that neither the liberal or conservative party give a shyt.

Anyways, Trump has basically been championed by racist white trash, and I can't consciously stay home on election day for that reason. My disdain for them is greater than what I hold for Hilary. Its a fukked up election year.:snoop:
 

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The fact is that both Democrats and Republicans don't give a fukk about Blacks or Latinos in this country. They pimp us for our votes and then ponder on what scraps and crumbs they're willing to let us 'win' to keep us feeling like we accomplished anything.

That's why we see both the Black and Latino communities struggling and still fighting over the same issues for decades now, with hardly anything to show for it.

Surely there's a lot more at play here, but its getting too obvious to ignore that neither the liberal or conservative party give a shyt.

Anyways, Trump has basically been championed by racist white trash, and I can't consciously stay home on election day for that reason. My disdain for them is greater than what I hold for Hilary. Its a fukked up election year.:snoop:
Please stop with the black and Latino bulllshyt. It's about black people and no one else.
 

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I mean you don't think those things you mentioned could shift in terms of degree. The difference between Dr facto segregation and checkpoints and curfews are only in matters of degree. Police brutality and concentration camps only differs in matters of degree.

There's also a possibility that things could get worse pending economic collapse...

Much worse.
 

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I'm somewhat shocked there's people here who literally think things couldn't get any worse.

Things have worse in our lifetimes. Things have been MUCH worse in our grandparents' lifetimes, unless you believe that nostalgia bullshyt. I ain't saying things are good now, but...do you think the Depression was a good time for Black people? A Trump presidency could be as ugly as hell for everyone...but if you think things are bad now in relative peacetime with a Democratic Party who does't really give a shyt, just imagine how bad they'll get if we start seeing economic collapse or global conflict (both things which Trump's policies and demeanor would encourage) and watch how bad it will get when Trump ACTIVELY sets things along racial lines to hold onto his base in tough times.

1931 Germany wasn't a great time and place to be a Jewish person. But....
 
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