If they want to grant amnesty to these illegals....

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They need to release our brothers and sisters locked up on outrageous sentences for non violent crimes. If people feel the need to excuse the criminal act of illegally sneaking in to the country, then people should also be willing to liberate the brothers and sisters incarcerated for nonviolent drug offenses.

This disgusting maneuver by the democratic left to legitimize the large number of illegals in the community in a weak attempt to shore up votes needs to be exposed for the fraud that it is. If blacks are smart they will fight this tooth and nail.
 

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They need to release our brothers and sisters locked up on outrageous sentences for non violent crimes. If people feel the need to excuse the criminal act of illegally sneaking in to the country, then people should also be willing to liberate the brothers and sisters incarcerated for nonviolent drug offensive.

This disgusting maneuver by the democratic left to legitimize the large number o illegals in the community in a weak attempt to shore up votes needs to be exposed for the fraud that is. If blacks are smart they will fight this tooth and nail.

If Black people are smart, they won't listen to crock pot ideas like these.
 

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They need to release our brothers and sisters locked up on outrageous sentences for non violent crimes. If people feel the need to excuse the criminal act of illegally sneaking in to the country, then people should also be willing to liberate the brothers and sisters incarcerated for nonviolent drug offensive.

This disgusting maneuver by the democratic left to legitimize the large number o illegals in the community in a weak attempt to shore up votes needs to be exposed for the fraud that is. If blacks are smart they will fight this tooth and nail.

can't fault you surprisingly

They need to start taking felonies off peoples records after x amount of years as well.
 

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They need to release our brothers and sisters locked up on outrageous sentences for non violent crimes. If people feel the need to excuse the criminal act of illegally sneaking in to the country, then people should also be willing to liberate the brothers and sisters incarcerated for nonviolent drug offensive.

This disgusting maneuver by the democratic left to legitimize the large number o illegals in the community in a weak attempt to shore up votes needs to be exposed for the fraud that is. If blacks are smart they will fight this tooth and nail.

I was with you all the way up until this statement. Black people should fight tooth and nail for our own issues and quit worrying about what other people are getting. Immigration is not our fight either way, we should concentrate on things that effect us.
 

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Then enlighten us genius on how black people giving a full throated support to blanket amnesty for illegals will in any way improve or strengthen the plight of African Americans?

It's not a zero sum game. But "fighting tooth and nail" to demand the amnesty of non-violent offenders in prison because amnesty might be given to illegal aliens is nonsensical.

What does one have to do with the other? You can still fight for non-violent offenders unjustly incarcerated without bringing up immigration. It seems like you are driven by your prejudices more than any real concern for incarcerated people of color.
 

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It's not a zero sum game. But "fighting tooth and nail" to demand the amnesty of non-violent offenders in prison because amnesty might be given to illegal aliens is nonsensical.

What does one have to do with the other? You can still fight for non-violent offenders unjustly incarcerated without bringing up immigration. It seems like you are driven by your prejudices more than any real concern for incarcerated people of color.

First off both people are considered criminals. Whether you like to admit it or not, illegal aliens committed crimes (I.e. sneaking into country) to achieve whatever status they currently have. Pushing for blanket amnesty is essentially turning the other cheek towards criminal behavior and punishing those law abiding citizens who actually chose to play by the rules and emigrate to this country via the numerous legal mechanisms that abound.

And again, prejudice has absolutely NOTHING to do with the argument. I'm just not some absent minded democrat like yourself that is so willing to ignore issues in the black community in order to focus on every other Democratic interest group out here....
 

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5 star thread, if one or 2 members of the black caucus said they arent supporting immigration reform it would send the amnesty train off track completely, but no black politician has the balls to call it out cuz the love the democratic party so much
 

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First off both people are considered criminals. Whether you like to admit it or not, illegal aliens committed crimes (I.e. sneaking into country) to achieve whatever status they currently have. Pushing for blanket amnesty is essentially turning the other cheek towards criminal behavior and punishing those law abiding citizens who actually chose to play by the rules and emigrate to this country via the numerous legal mechanisms that abound.

And again, prejudice has absolutely NOTHING to do with the argument. I'm just not some absent minded democrat like yourself that is so willing to ignore issues in the black community in order to focus on every other Democratic interest group out here....

Well just say you have a problem with amnesty. Why conflate it with another unrelated issue when illegal aliens haven't even had due process?

I'm not saying black people have an obligation to support immigration amnesty, just that if you oppose it, oppose it on grounds that make sense.
 

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this whole "everybody is locked up for a joint" thing is horseshyt

lots of wierdos in prison say they got locked up for smoking crack but don't bring up the fact they are STILL IN THERE bc they are serving consecutive sentences for the dude he killed, resisting arrest, and the chick he raped.

people have to chill with this soft heart for prison shyt you gonna get us all fukking killed. America is one of the most violent places on this earth and they have like 300 plus million people with only 2 million in jail, in one of the most violent gun infested twisted places on earth. There is hundreds of murders, thousand of robberies thousands of rapes still in cities all across the USA and people acting like the prison population to fukking high :snoop:
 

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Well just say you have a problem with amnesty. Why conflate it with another unrelated issue when illegal aliens haven't even had due process?

I'm not saying black people have an obligation to support immigration amnesty, just that if you oppose it, oppose it on grounds that make sense.

Uh being here illegally is a felony?
 
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