If The U.S. Focused On Soccer, It Would Be A Wrap

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soccer greatness is closely linked to money available for talent development and the available talent pool, so obviously if america was focused on soccer it would be a world power because it has the money and a big pool of potential players in a country known for athletic dominance. the difference between paul pogba being born in france vs guinea is the talent development culture and money in a country that prioritizes the sport.
 

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ProSports: NOLA. College: UMich. Europe: Arsenal
Soccer aint comparable to hoops or footbal:stopitslime: aint no adrian petersons gonna turn into a skill first passing technician. athletes born to run, hit and collide wont get far


joel embiid picked up a ball at 15 and now hes the brightest young star at center in the league.

african immigrant kids pick up football in HS for the 1st time and turn into day 1-2 nfl picks

point being: athelticism type sports take 3-5 years to become ready to play

soccer is not that. its more like tennis. Skill cones first, and it takes way longer 2 get good. Its like tennis, better start at an early age, to master that skill can take almost half ur life. We'd need acadamies for elementary school kids.:jbhmm:

Also im cool with OP but poverty ball is a :mjpls: barstool sports type joke if i ever heard one
 
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Still no doubt about this.

If the A-level U.S. athletes went to soccer, it'd be a wrap.:banderas:.

Euros and South Americans in absolute denial.

How much talent is wasted in the AAU circuit by guys who never get tall enough to continue to complete in bball?

If they spent those formative years honing their soccer skills instead we'd be dominating :whoo:
 

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This wont happen until soccer stops being an escape from minorities bu white kids.

They essentially pay to keep disadvantaged kids out. Their scared that if they let "poor" kids in their kids wont have anything to play.

If US soccer association wants to get serious, they need to have camps in the summer where kids in every community can learn skills.
 

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More than technical skills it's tactics, discipline and team building. Most African nations have European coaches to this day. The level of professionalism in national staff has to improve from youth level up. Iceland has what, less than half a million inhabitants and they qualified for the euros and world cup. Their players, some of them are semi pro. Made it out of the group stage this euros. That is a behemoth effort, almost defies logic. Damn they drew against Argentina just now. It can be done, look at boxing in West Africa these days.

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Still no doubt about this.

If the A-level U.S. athletes went to soccer, it'd be a wrap.:banderas:.

Euros and South Americans in absolute denial.

Been watching the USMNT for 2 decades. Athleticism isn't the problem. Hasn't been for at least a decade.

The biggest problem with soccer in this country is that youth soccer is too damn expensive; it can cost a couple thousand a year to keep your son playing in the upper echelons of soccer. So the pool of talent tends to be involve too many middle class whites and not enough blacks and Hispanics from poorer neighborhoods. Poorer kids are naturally more driven to be excellent - there's more pressure on them to succeed. If a 16 or 17 year old gotta go to a country like Germany where they don't speak the language to be great at soccer, they're gonna do it because they got that drive. Richer kids stay in their comfort zone and go to college at 18 to play soccer, which is good for them but not good for American soccer.

Also, coaching in this country is generally terrible and unless you grew up hanging with immigrants kids don't play enough pickup soccer.
 

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Been watching the USMNT for 2 decades. Athleticism isn't the problem. Hasn't been for at least a decade.

The biggest problem with soccer in this country is that youth soccer is too damn expensive; it can cost a couple thousand a year to keep your son playing in the upper echelons of soccer. So the pool of talent tends to be involve too many middle class whites and not enough blacks and Hispanics from poorer neighborhoods. Poorer kids are naturally more driven to be excellent - there's more pressure on them to succeed. If a 16 or 17 year old gotta go to a country like Germany where they don't speak the language to be great at soccer, they're gonna do it because they got that drive. Richer kids stay in their comfort zone and go to college at 18 to play soccer, which is good for them but not good for American soccer.

Also, coaching in this country is generally terrible and unless you grew up hanging with immigrants kids don't play enough pickup soccer.

this this plus someone else said it. they price blacks and hispanics from being able to play. im wokring with a friend of mine from college to try and get camps started during the summer in those nieghborhoods. im trying to find a way to get support from the city (pittsburgh) as well. im tired of watching these suburban kids act like they are doing something. i just need to put one team together to get them to shyt on them i can see the parents crying now and refusing to schedule them. :ahh:
 

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More to soccer than athleticism why even you see these old guys like pirlo and figo past their project still controlling the game
 

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This wont happen until soccer stops being an escape from minorities bu white kids.

They essentially pay to keep disadvantaged kids out. Their scared that if they let "poor" kids in their kids wont have anything to play.

If US soccer association wants to get serious, they need to have camps in the summer where kids in every community can learn skills.
In other words, get rid of pay to play. Many analysts keep harping on this. Also, I wish people stop bringing up NCAA. This sport has proven that you can't run it like other American sports.

It is also believed that Black Americans are the only Black people in the world that doesn't really like the sport. They even made a documentary on it.

 
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To succeed in sports you need to pit your talents against the best. The center of soccer is in Europe with pipelines drawn across the globe. The way US soccer is organized is similar to other American sporting codes which is their biggest mistake, I have seen unlimited subs in a NCAA D1 match, artificial pitches etc. The league has these rules about salaries that do not apply to UEFA or when they do regularly get flouted by PSG. There is no promotion/relegation, a draft whereas in all leagues everywhere else you don't get to choose a good player because you are a bad team. Money also has its limits, the best players always want to compete against Real, Barca, Bayern, PSG or play for them. The US in its corner won't be able to expose its players to that level unless they all leave the country. Athleticism by itself doesn't help , England used to have a similar problem in its youth development going after big , tall and strong players but found playing against possession teams problematic.
 
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This country puts out it's C-level athletes and is somewhat competitive. If this country focused on poverty ball and actually had it's premier athletes playing, every world trophy would be held in this great nation.

If Chilie and Belgium can move up 60+ spots in Fifa's world rankings in a 5-15 year time period while using their best athletes, the U.S. would be #1 in no time if this country even put it's B-level athletes out there.:blessed:.

A cross from Westbrook into the box finished with a header by LeBron.:gladbron:.


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I hate when white people talk about sports.

Please shut the fukk up white boy and stop talking about anything that ain't hockey or baseball.
 

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I wish Soccer was big in America. I didn’t realize how fun it is to watch soccer until I was put on la Liga and EPL. Those games are more entertaining than football. I’ve actually grown sick of watching football but many people are just used to it. It’s engrained in the culture. Tbh, I think if black Americans stopped fukking with football, it can cause a shift. Black kids should be playing backyard soccer instead of backyard tag football.
 
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