If Kanye Is Such A Musical Genius Why Does He Need So Much Help?

[3rdWorld]

Kanye isn't even seeing Marly Marl, Diamond D, Battle Cat, Warren G or Easy Mo Bee..

The kids today with no history in hip-hop allow him to get away with the genius tag cause they simply don't know any better. Shame..

 

[Insensitive]

If Quincy and Miles were such geniuses why did they need help?

Either you're stupid or you speak without thinking, which makes you stupid. So yea, you're just stupid.

I'm not sure what you mean here.
Quincy is not only a highly talented composer but he's also a strong musician
who hung around straight giants in his youth like Miles Davis and Clark Terry.

And speaking of Miles Davis, he's a genius because he not only changed Jazz BY HIMSELF
but he introduced a few standard compositions that people still play TO THIS DAY.

Dudes like Miles Davis, Duke Ellington, Thelonious Monk or Quincy Jones really aren't
Kanye's equals and I like Kanye.

 

[3rdWorld]

Don't fukk with Quincy. He had like like 20 jazz grammys under his belt before producing Thriller..

 

[SirBiatch]

Back when he made his own beats his drums were cheap and terrible

I never forgave him for that

Ye aint really funky like that. Which is no surprise considering how cac-friendly he always was.

 

[MikeyC]

I was born in '88.

You nikkas just pop fans and need to stop acting like you like rap/hip-hop because you don't...you like pop music

And that's ok.

Yeh production has changed but real rap/hip-hop producers still don't need a army to make a good beat.

Like I said before you dudes must of just started this hip-hop shyt.

Why do you think old Kanye is so respected?... nikka just had a mpc2000 and a sp1200 and made classic shyt. Dude got a army of producers and can only pump out 1 good song every now and then.

You're one of those people, yeah? A "Real Hip-Hop" head? I guess you consider any rap album released after 2001 is considered pop music. Probably still rock XXXXL white tees and baggy jeans with a backpack.

Funny thing is if Kanye had kept that chipmunk soul sound, you nikkaz would chastising him anyway, that he hasn't evolved, needs to change his drums up, has gone stale etc.

You have kids singing in TP2.com that got credit for the album. The rest are engineers and shyt. Kellz wrote and produced the whole thing except 1 song and wrote the entire thing solo. Kanye can't do that shyt and he's not close to being a genius. He wife's whores and gets other producers to help him sample real geniuses shyt while paying ghostwriters to write his rhymes.

So you do agree that R. Kelly needed help to make the album?

Thats all I wanted to hear, breh.

sampling is flat out genius.

First of all, everyone samples. The principle of sampling is basically taking an idea from one place and applying it to another. Old as time.

The technical aspect of sampling is new but is genius nonetheless. Like all things, it depends on how it's done. Cats like Timbaland, Premo, Pete Rock created whole new worlds with old records. shyt that no one even thought of doing. That's genius.



Real talk. Modern hip hop has an unprecedented amount of wannabees who claim to like hip hop, but really are pop fans.

@MikeyC is a Yeezy stan and an attention whore. This thread is like reading ether to him.

nikka, you still here? I was done with you, yet you keep mentioning my name. What's wrong with you?

 

[SirBiatch]

nikka, you still here? I was done with you, yet you keep mentioning my name. What's wrong with you?

relax, breh. It aint that serious. You negged me randomly for the attention, with the hope that I'd look at your posts. So I did.

Others and I thought your posts were dumb, so I mentioned you. Isn't that what you wanted?

 

[3rdWorld]

Some of you will develop a migraine debating 'music' with 90s babies that only ever heard 'some' hip-hop.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

You're one of those people, yeah? A "Real Hip-Hop" head? I guess you consider any rap album released after 2001 is considered pop music. Probably still rock XXXXL white tees and baggy jeans with a backpack.

Funny thing is if Kanye had kept that chipmunk soul sound, you nikkaz would chastising him anyway, that he hasn't evolved, needs to change his drums up, has gone stale etc.



So you do agree that R. Kelly needed help to make the album?

Thats all I wanted to hear, breh.



nikka, you still here? I was done with you, yet you keep mentioning my name. What's wrong with you?

Kellz didn't need help writing or producing the album which is all that counts.

 

[Anti-Anime]

"imma look in the mirror if i need some help"

 

[ItWasWritten]

Same here. You working in something audio right now?

I mix local jokers in Los Angeles

 

[SadimirPutin]

um because music is ultimately a collaborative process

if it was so easy why didnt other "more talented" dudes blow up like kanye......

 

[Mowgli]

And I understand Dr.Dre got plenty of help but he never proclaimed himself a genius. Kanye brings in writers and producers to help him yet people consider him a genius. Makes no sense to me.

Name a modern musical genius who doesnt need help.

You arent an artist. You arent a musician. Stop.

These arent blackthoughts. These damn near CacThoughts

 

[CrimsonTider]

Getting the best out of others is genius in any context.

 

[Mowgli]

Personnel[edit]

• Producer – Beck Hansen
• Audio Engineers – David Greenbaum, Florian Lagatta, Cole M. Greif-Neill, Robbie Nelson, Darrell Thorp, Cassidy Turbin & Joe Visciano
• Mastering Engineer – Bob Ludwig
• Beck Hansen – vocals, acoustic guitar (tracks 2–5, 8, 9, 11 and 12), electric guitar (tracks 9 and 13), keyboards (track 2), piano (tracks 3, 5, 6 and 13), synthesizer (track 13), organ (track 13), electric bass (tracks 5 and 11), sound collage (track 3), tambourine (track 4), ukulele(track 5), charango (track 5), celeste (track 9), dulcimer (track 11), harmonica (track 12),glockenspiel (track 13), orchestral arrangements (all tracks with orchestral instruments)
• Joey Waronker – drums (tracks 2, 3, 5, 8, 12, and 13), percussion (tracks 2, 3, 5, and 9)
• Roger Joseph Manning, Jr. – piano, synthesizers, rhodes, clavinet, B3 organ, background vocals
• Stanley Clarke – upright bass (track 2), electric bass (track 3)
• James Gadson – drums (tracks 4 and 6)
• Cody Kilby – guitar (track 4)
• Bram Inscore – electric bass (track 4)
• Fats Kaplin – banjo (track 4)
• Justin Meldal-Johnsen – bass (tracks 6, 8, 9, and 13)
• Smokey Hormel – acoustic guitar (tracks 6 and 8), electric guitar (tracks 9 and 12), ebow(track 6)
• Stephanie Bennett – harp (tracks 6 and 11)
• Steve Richards – cello (tracks 7 and 8)
• Roger Waronker – piano (track 8)
• Jason Falkner – electric guitar (tracks 9, 12, and 13)
• Matt Mahaffey – organ (tracks 9 and 13)
• Greg Leisz – pedal steel guitar (tracks 9 and 12)
• Matt Sherrod – drums (track 9)
• David Campbell – orches

Yea beck has no help

Cacs acting like because you can play a lot of instruments you doing all the work yourself.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Name a modern musical genius who doesnt need help.

You arent an artist. You arent a musician. Stop.

These arent blackthoughts. These damn near CacThoughts

You defending Kanye while calling me a cac? The irony.