If Hamas is able to touch Israel, the US stands zero chance against drug cartels

[King]

More like 20 years, and had to high tail it out of there

And lets not forget the Korean and Vietnan bogged down disasters..throw Mogadishu in there too


American propaganda media will convince you to enlist and realize shyt isnt really sweet in war..

right, the only thing the US has going for it are the nukes

everything else is

 

[TheMailMan]

That's what I'm saying. All major US cities in west and southwest are food.



Not really, all that would lead to is terrorism. The US can legalize drugs, destroy, and arrest every cartel leader in Mexico tomorrow. But if you cut off the cartels business. You go from highly organized cartels to disorganized incredibly armed elite terrorist splinter cells.

Cut their business off and they have no money to even fight . Give me 1 battalion and a CIWS mounted on a truck and Im rolling right thru Tijuana

 

[the elastic]

That is nullified by the fact that they would be masters at urban combat in such a close proximity to the US structure.

Air Superiority and Naval Capabilities are nullified by being good at hiding in buildings and sniping from roofs?

You remember where them cartels get their weapons and funding from?

Just cause a few commanders got trained by some Special Forces dudes don't mean they suddenly got the capabilities to counter the USA's military.

Besides the Mujahideen having Special Forces training, they had another thing that Cartels definitely don't have:

Fierce Religious Fervor

To be honest, if you really wanted to end all the cartels you could just literally buy them out. Send a billion a piece to each Cartel head and I bet they would peace it out.

You can't do that with religious radicals.


Also Special Forces training is highly overrated. They aren't giving them all the sauce. And the USA trains with all kinds of different countries.

 

[Prodyson]

You're seriously doubting their capabilities. They are literally two skips away from those crazy ass jungle milligan Reagan got cocaine from. And they're already better trained.


That's the issue you can't "pop" someone and be done with it. You can't cut off the heads. You'll just spawn more.

My dad was a Ranger and has trained foreign forces before, and he told us how it went. I think you’re overselling what it means to be “trained” by elite forces.

I doubt they’re taking cartel members through anything comparable to special forces training. In reality, they’re probably closer to the run of the mill soldiers we have in our own army that are often times incompetent. They just know how to clear a room and shoot a gun.

 

[Absolut]

One of the dumbest thoughts I’ve seen on here, and that’s saying something. US military would wipe these shytstain cartels off the map in seconds if it was required. That’s why they fold the minute an American gets involved with them in Mexico to keep any blowback at bay

 

[Ghost Utmost]

No power on planet Earth is greater than the US.

If you live in the US, be glad of that.

 

[3rdWorld]

right, the only thing the US has going for it are the nukes

everything else is

The last war the US outright won was WwII..its been L after L since then even with the fancy tech

 

[Maximus Rex]

When those Americans were killed, cartels were quick to turn in the person who did it with a signed confession, because they don't want smoke with the US like that.

 

[King]

My dad was a Ranger and has trained foreign forces before, and he told us how it went. I think you’re overselling what it means to be “trained” by elite forces.

I doubt they’re taking cartel members through anything comparable to special forces training. In reality, they’re probably closer to the run of the mill soldiers we have in our own army that are often times incompetent. They just know how to clear a room and shoot a gun.

You're not seeing the point. Most troops in the US military aren't really combat tested in real life. Probs even the elite ones. I'm sure they've been on real life special operations but I doubt they've all had to kill. It's moreso logistics than anything.

There's a difference between receiving the best training. Versus receiving training from mfers who were taught the best AND crazy enough to train a cartel.

And plus these cartels are battle tested, you can call them incompetent but they're war ready.

Cut their business off and they have no money to even fight . Give me 1 battalion and a CIWS mounted on a truck and Im rolling right thru Tijuana

Air Superiority and Naval Capabilities are nullified by being good at hiding in buildings and sniping from roofs?

You remember where them cartels get their weapons and funding from?

Just cause a few commanders got trained by some Special Forces dudes don't mean they suddenly got the capabilities to counter the USA's military.

Besides the Mujahideen having Special Forces training, they had another thing that Cartels definitely don't have:

Fierce Religious Fervor

To be honest, if you really wanted to end all the cartels you could just literally buy them out. Send a billion a piece to each Cartel head and I bet they would peace it out.

You can't do that with religious radicals.


Also Special Forces training is highly overrated. They aren't giving them all the sauce. And the USA trains with all kinds of different countries.

Y'all not seeing either. You take away their business and you leave a whole lot of poor overly armed trained militas with a vengeance. That's really all it would take to have that spark for them to go ultra cultish.

The only reason why they operate so well are due to divide and conquer tactics. But it's still a dangerous game to play. If shyt really hit the fan the US ain't equipped.

Add in the fact that they're already in the US and could easily get in.

It's not a battle of military might. But simply logistics and urban guerrilla tactics on US soil.

US simply isn't equipped to deal with that. Sure you have police, even the national guard. But you have overpaid race soldiers and weekend soldiers. They're food to the average cartel. Plus they've already infiltrated all of them. It's not as cut and dry as exterminating 200k crazy Mexicans with guns.

Bring in the navy and all the other branches to do what... level US cities?

 

[the elastic]

You're not seeing the point. Most troops in the US military aren't really combat tested in real life. Probs even the elite ones. I'm sure they've been on real life special operations but I doubt they've all had to kill. It's moreso logistics than anything.

There's a difference between receiving the best training. Versus receiving training from mfers who were taught the best AND crazy enough to train a cartel.

And plus these cartels are battle tested, you can call them incompetent but they're war ready.


Y'all not seeing either. You take away their business and you leave a whole lot of poor overly armed trained militas with a vengeance. That's really all it would take to have that spark for them to go ultra cultish.

The only reason why they operate so well are due to divide and conquer tactics. But it's still a dangerous game to play. If shyt really hit the fan the US ain't equipped.

Add in the fact that they're already in the US and could easily get in.

It's not a battle of military might. But simply logistics and urban guerrilla tactics on US soil.

US simply isn't equipped to deal with that. Sure you have police, even the national guard. But you have overpaid race soldiers and weekend soldiers. They're food to the average cartel. Plus they've already infiltrated all of them. It's not as cut and dry as exterminating 200k crazy Mexicans with guns.

Bring in the navy and all the other branches to do what... level US cities?

@Orbital-Fetus, look at this dude

 

[King]

@Orbital-Fetus, look at this dude

Overly simplistic AI propaganda vid.

Doesn't mention that bombing Mexico like that would destroy the US economy.

Most of the shyt we have here is built, grown, and produced in Mexico.

Doesn't even account for the fact that the "surprise" attacks wouldn't be immediately be known by the cartels due to corruption.

 

[Mowgli]

 

[Mister Terrific]

right, the only thing the US has going for it are the nukes

everything else is

So flabby.


Btw read up on the last time the Cartels killed an American agent and the U.S. went in and blew up their entire spot.

Kiki Camarena, The Guadalajara Cartel, and the Start of an International Drug War – Perspectives on Black Markets v. 4

iu.pressbooks.pub

Cartels aren’t Isis, Al Qaeda or Hamas. They very much care about not dying. In reality the US would just pay one side to kill the other.

 

[Prodyson]

You're not seeing the point. Most troops in the US military aren't really combat tested in real life. Probs even the elite ones. I'm sure they've been on real life special operations but I doubt they've all had to kill. It's moreso logistics than anything.

There's a difference between receiving the best training. Versus receiving training from mfers who were taught the best AND crazy enough to train a cartel.

And plus these cartels are battle tested, you can call them incompetent but they're war ready.


Y'all not seeing either. You take away their business and you leave a whole lot of poor overly armed trained militas with a vengeance. That's really all it would take to have that spark for them to go ultra cultish.

The only reason why they operate so well are due to divide and conquer tactics. But it's still a dangerous game to play. If shyt really hit the fan the US ain't equipped.

Add in the fact that they're already in the US and could easily get in.

It's not a battle of military might. But simply logistics and urban guerrilla tactics on US soil.

US simply isn't equipped to deal with that. Sure you have police, even the national guard. But you have overpaid race soldiers and weekend soldiers. They're food to the average cartel. Plus they've already infiltrated all of them. It's not as cut and dry as exterminating 200k crazy Mexicans with guns.

Bring in the navy and all the other branches to do what... level US cities?

Being battle tested in a cartel is not the same as facing the greatest military power on earth who not only has a major influence on your country but also borders your country. They’re not completing organized missions with objectives. They’re terrorizing small towns and committing mass murder against people who are largely defenseless. Furthermore, as someone mentioned, the only thing they’re driven by is money not some aligning principle that people are willing to die over.

 

[TheDarkskinnedDrake]

Y’all throw out Iraq, Mogadishu, Vietnam and forget to add the kill count the US military is the most destructive force on the planet. If given free reign would Mexico would become Germany/Japan