If Dallas wins a title will Kyrie be put on the Mt Rushmore of 1B/Robin players alongside Pippen…..?

[FTBS]

That's never stopped posters from slandering other players, so let's not try and use it as an excuse with Kyrie now.

Its not an excuse it is what it is. He aint THAT. He has proven it year after year. If you still thinking he is THAT thats on you not him.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Its not an excuse it is what it is. He aint THAT. He has proven it year after year. If you still thinking he is THAT thats on you not him.

That's still literally never stopped the Coli from slandering other players they've propped up over the years

We literally had posters on this site trying to claim them as the best duo of all time and now the narrative is trying to be spinned now that Kyrie didn't show up and Luka played like shyt on defense.

 

[FTBS]

That's still literally never stopped the Coli from slandering other players they've propped up over the years

We literally had posters on this site trying to claim them as the best duo of all time and now the narrative is trying to be spinned now that Kyrie didn't show up and Luka played like shyt on defense.

How is "not showing up" an excuse and not slander?

I am all about keeping it a buck regardless

 

[steph_harden]

At Wade's peak he wasn't comfortably Top 3, because his peak coincided simultaneously with Dwight's and people do either misremember, or just disregard, how great Dwight was. He and Wade both peaked at the same time and while different positions and all that, my remembrance of that era is that it was Dwight and Wade right after Bron and Kobe, and Melo a half step behind...

So I also don't think that Wade peaked that much higher than Melo. And as bad as some of the circumstances of Wade's prime was, Melo wasn't afforded the best circumstances, either. And he was in the tougher conference...

Wade's peak he was a Top 4 guy, Melo was around Top 5 at his peak. Both are #1's but Melo had the tougher conference and path and was never afforded a last really good version of Shaq-esque player to help aid him to a title...

Wade at his peak was just a better basketball player than Dwight.

Dwight was dominant but he also had the perfect team built around him. Dude had shooters all over the court....including a couple of multi talented and versatile 6'10 forwards. You'd be hard pressed to find a Rashard Lewis now in a league where the talent is much more vast now....let alone 15 years ago. Dwight damn near had unicorns on his team.

Wade in 09 was literally only behind Lebron as the best player in the league.

 

[murksiderock]

Wade at his peak was just a better basketball player than Dwight.

Dwight was dominant but he also had the perfect team built around him. Dude had shooters all over the court....including a couple of multi talented and versatile 6'10 forwards. You'd be hard pressed to find a Rashard Lewis now in a league where the talent is much more vast now....let alone 15 years ago. Dwight damn near had unicorns on his team.

Wade in 09 was literally only behind Lebron as the best player in the league.

I don't think Wade was ever of a level of greatness that was only behind LeBron. And I didn't think that in real time. Wade at his peak wasn't better than Kobe, who was nearing the end of his prime...

The Dwight thing, his value defensively was unmatched, and he wasn't a skilled offensive player but around the basket he was Shaq-lite. Wade and Dwight were fairly close, to me...

Wade was better than Melo but it was close. Incidentally, the level of player I always felt Melo was, is about where I see Tatum now. Same level of player...

 

[Marlow Stanfield]

Bum ass thread for a choke artist of a player

 

[steph_harden]

I don't think Wade was ever of a level of greatness that was only behind LeBron. And I didn't think that in real time. Wade at his peak wasn't better than Kobe, who was nearing the end of his prime...

The Dwight thing, his value defensively was unmatched, and he wasn't a skilled offensive player but around the basket he was Shaq-lite. Wade and Dwight were fairly close, to me...

Wade was better than Melo but it was close. Incidentally, the level of player I always felt Melo was, is about where I see Tatum now. Same level of player...

Kobe was considered the better player throughout their careers (which is impressive because Kobe had a full Nba career before Wade was even drafted)

But in 09-11 Dwade was clearly the better player.

Wade = 27.4/6/5/1.2 on 48%
Kobe = 25/5/5/0.6 on 45%

He was impacting the game on both ends more than Kobe was during that 3 year run.

And Melo wasn't even considered on Dwade's tier during that run. Melo was a one way volume scorer.....Dwade was an elite 2 way player who was the chief playmaker and rim protector for his team. And he still put up better scoring numbers on better efficiency than Melo during that run.

I know you don't like Dwade breh but he was really like that