"If Chicago doesnt fix the carnage, I will send in the Feds" - President Trump

[DonKnock]

Totally different, ISIS has too many political ramifications. In essence, the US under O was not serious about getting rid of ISIS. ISIS was being propped up to obtain other geo-political and financial goals.

Those type of drones will never be used on US SOIL unless you want full chaos. Only surveillance drones

I wasn't advocating drone use
That was an example of how violence and military action is futile in changing culture, which YOU cite as the real issue

But you all for sending in the troops cause it will change the culture

 

[swerve]

anyone who says that blacks kill each other because they have no other choice obviously is out of their goddamn mind

Nobody is saying they don't have a choice. Everybody got a choice.

But a lot of white people are self righteous a$$holes who think they would go the long and hard way instead of the easy way. This is the same people who never even been close to setting their feet in one of these neighborhoods and continues to point their fingers saying "these people are black, so its in their nature to behave this way" and continue to feed into these type of stereotypes.

Like you have always done the right thing even though it is much harder

 

[DonKnock]

Do you have any solutions that haven't been tried?

#33

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

other options?

We are talking about many cities here engaged in this "street culture"

Again, you want to fix a problem you get to the root cause, which is pure socioeconomics in this case. Even if you wipe all these kids out, as you are so eager for the govt to do, you still have the underlying cycles of poverty and lack of opportunity that fostered the conditions for these crimes in the first place. We have tried to be "tough on crime" and got jack shyt for it. We already know there is a negative correlation between economic opportunity/stability and crime. Trump is making a huge mistake.

 

[Uncle Hotep]

#TrumpSeason

 

[swerve]

There are far more white people on welfare and living in impoverished trailer park communities in middle America than Blacks in the inner city

yet 1 group has far more homicides/murders

it's not race it's the culture

if you didn't know it's little to no economic anything in poor rural hillbilly hick town USA......

Can you name one of these trailer park communities so we can see facts on how much crime their is in one of these neighborhoods?
I keep hearing this argument but I never see any numbers.

It's anecdotal

 

[Serious]

how long you gonna bring up slavery...we have to fix ourselves enough is enough at this point

 

[ghostwriterx]

There are far more white people on welfare and living in impoverished trailer park communities in middle America than Blacks in the inner city

yet 1 group has far more homicides/murders

it's not race it's the culture

if you didn't know it's little to no economic anything in poor rural hillbilly hick town USA......

America's poorest towns, state by state

Isn't that more about location? Are there high violent crime rates in predominantly black poor rural/low populations?

 

[88m3]

@88m3
I would debate them, but I gain nothing from it...


If they come the podcast I'll murder their talking points though.

thought I was tagged in a tlr thread for a minute

 

[Pressure]

I'd like to know where you are going with this........please elaborate

You have to identify the problem before you come up with real solutions.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

There are far more white people on welfare and living in impoverished trailer park communities in middle America than Blacks in the inner city

yet 1 group has far more homicides/murders

it's not race it's the culture

if you didn't know it's little to no economic anything in poor rural hillbilly hick town USA......

America's poorest towns, state by state

Again, it's various factors. For starters, crime rates increase with population density, regardless of race. If you live in a small town, you're less likely to encounter a criminal (or anybody), and you're more likely to know the perpetrator (which would deter them from committing a violent crime)

Second, I've already spoken to the inequities in the criminal justice system that make race based differences look worse than they actually are.

Thirdly we have already tried your "tough on crime" approach... these kids and this situation were born out of that

I am not saying there's not a unique homicide problem in these neighborhoods, but your fantasy of a govt run genocide isn't going to solve said problem. These kids are at the nexus of population density, poverty and a lack of socioeconomic opportunity... the shyt is the perfect storm for whatever is going on. You can kill all the black boys you want but the cause of this problem won't change until the underlying socioeconomic issues are addressed.... which you don't need to send in an army to do

 

[Uncle Hotep]

The amount of agents in this thread alone

if you look at the way the feds planted agents in the 60's and how yall call people agents you would know you doing it wrong

 

[theworldismine13]

But that's not what they're doing though. They just outright closing schools and sending kids to the next nearest HS that got some room. That or they turn it over to a private company to run it and the success rate on that ain't really all that either. They did the some of the schools in Gary like that, and the ones the private firms took over ain't shyt but holding tanks from 9-3 basically. They ain't teaching kids shyt, they just collecting checks and worrying about how many bodies they got in the seats so they can get paid. Thats why some of them pay the kids just to come to school. But all they care about is them showing up, once in there they didn't teach them shyt or give any of the help to them kids that they actually needed. They don't even hire proper staff. The pay the kids and cut corners every which way to increase their bottom line. That's what private takeovers and closing of public schools means to Cacs. It's just another way to increase that check

well there is a good way of doing things and a bad way of doing things but the current system is just a school to jail pipeline and school to poverty pipeline so the current system has to eliminated

 

[Maschine_Man]

You have to identify the problem before you come up with real solutions.

I definitely agree with that.

but what do we do in the mean time when ppl are having their own loved ones being killed. Children are being killed.

 

[DonKnock]

1) +
2) +
3) Millions and millions of dollars have been poured into the inner city education system in the last 30 years
4) Treatment centers already in place

Even with all this, I don't think this stops the street culture

http://www.publiccharters.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2014_Enrollment_Share_FINAL.pdf

So how would you explain this correlation between cities with egregious murder rates and high % of charter schools Look at that, 4 out of the top 5 cities in murder rate are in states with a top 5 Charter School city in it.

Are Charter Schools part of "street culture"

Could it be possible that all of that money you allege was going to inner city schools was actually being wasted in ineffective Charter Schools thanks to people like the new Secretary of Education



Also, you're quick to gloss over how there are "treatment centers in place" while ignoring the fact that the point was that these individuals be able to have access to healthcare, not a front row seat to other people receiving healthcare

Additionally, Trump is planning on repealing Obamacare, which will leave many who currently have access once again left out in the cold. So you are at a minimum acknowledging that Trump will make the problem worse through his ignorant repealing without a replacement plan?