If Bernie doesn't get the nod how are you voting (POLL)

[One20ne]

The problem arises when you consider 43 % of America are Independents. 31% are Dems and 29% are Republicans. That means the majority of America does not have a say in every Primary Election ( Delaware, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine,Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Pennsylvania, and Wyoming). New York is a high delegate pivotal state in timing which can shape media narrative more so than it already is.

As a whole, the American electoral wants to funnel you into one of two categories without your choice. Then have you choose.

Another part to the problem is that Democracy as a practice was never built on fairness. George Washington, Jefferson, dikk Cheney etc were/are all rich slave owners. Do you think back in the day (colonial days) a shoe shop owner could close down and campaign on his 5 pence or w.e to get elected to public office? This country, constitution, legal precedents were all built from economic influence. Modern day has people wondering how things are so unfair when they have always been this way and were always supposed to be.

The internet is bringing people together as a collective conscious and we are slowly moving in the right direction. The modern day issue isn't how to get money out of politics, or elect a certain person. It is making sure whoever is in office does not pass anything destroying Net Neutrality or increasing censorship like China. Watch Comcast, Verizon, Time Warner, maybe Clinton, Trump, Cruz, try to manipulate the Internet into a more restricted entity to control what the populace thinks more than they already do.

Oh and I'm undecided what I'm gonna do in Nov.

 

[GzUp]

Not with his attitude. Have you not seen the growing opposition to him by people? Have you seen the disdain foreign leaders have toward him?

He will wreck our international standings and our entire system will collapse. Only the most loyal racist will stick with him while everyone else will jump shift.

Its like the old saying, "humanity will not change until it is at the edge of annihilation."

who do u think is voting for him rightnow?

 

[GzUp]

Yeah like white supremacy didn't grow under Obama and won't grow under Clinton. ..

Why you think they so angry now?

white supremacy can reach saiyan levels with trump... he would put a stop to cameras on police officers tbh.

 

[SirReginald]

That's it?

With your simple ass

No, you're simple by saying she's the MOST QUALIFIED candidate. Give me a break

 

[ndthentherewasx]

No, you're simple by saying she's the MOST QUALIFIED candidate. Give me a break

Out the 4 we have to "choose" from, she is. By far..

Are you even voting

 

[NoMayo15]

Not with his attitude. Have you not seen the growing opposition to him by people? Have you seen the disdain foreign leaders have toward him?

He will wreck our international standings and our entire system will collapse. Only the most loyal racist will stick with him while everyone else will jump shift.

Its like the old saying, "humanity will not change until it is at the edge of annihilation."

What the actual fukk is wrong with you Bernie or Bust fukks.

You didn't get your ideal candidate, so you're willing to help bring about the downfall of your country (which will doubtingly hurt the poorest and most disenfranchised of us)?

Perfect is the enemy of good. This country has been making small, incremental but positive changes to the left, but you'd rather say fukk all that if you can't have everything you want now. Like an angry kid who takes his ball and goes home. A Trump presidency would be a move in the wrong direction ... 4 years of our lives we could not get back. Clinton admittedly isn't much better, but she is demonstrably better. We might not see any changes with Citizens United or the military industrial complex (def not with Trump) but at least we won't be the laughing stock of the world. At least we won't see the rights of women, Mexican and Arab Americans eroded.

 

[MegaManX]

What the actual fukk is wrong with you Bernie or Bust fukks.

You didn't get your ideal candidate, so you're willing to help bring about the downfall of your country (which will doubtingly hurt the poorest and most disenfranchised of us)?

Perfect is the enemy of good. This country has been making small, incremental but positive changes to the left, but you'd rather say fukk all that if you can't have everything you want now. Like an angry kid who takes his ball and goes home. A Trump presidency would be a move in the wrong direction ... 4 years of our lives we could not get back. Clinton admittedly isn't much better, but she is demonstrably better. We might not see any changes with Citizens United or the military industrial complex (def not with Trump) but at least we won't be the laughing stock of the world. At least we won't see the rights of women, Mexican and Arab Americans eroded.

is that what u call the highest real unemployment rate in history?

Is that what you call police state USA?

Is that what you call "made in china" and "made in mexico?"

That is small "incremental" steps to the left?

I don't think left is what you think it means.

BTW, Hillary is the most hawkish corporate sponsor of terror in the last 100 years. There is not an intervention she doesn't approve of. She is Lindsey Graham is he was a woman.

Even the republicans know you can't run to the right of Hillary when it comes to war. Her record is top of the line pro-killing brown people.

 

[JahFocus CS]

I fail to see how a weakened oppressive system really hurts the poorest people. What the fukk? If I'm out here trapping and putting my life on the line everyday just to eat, what can be that much worse (except prison)?

Also Trump is better than Hillary on foreign policy. The fall of the American Empire

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I honestly think the people that want to see the downfall of the country are unstable, or completely incapable of understanding exactly how horrifying that scenario is. The US becoming unstable as a country would be a worldwide issue and certainly wouldn't end well for any that isn't in the 1%

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I fail to see how a weakened oppressive system really hurts the poorest people. What the fukk? If I'm out here trapping and putting my life on the line everyday just to eat, what can be that much worse (except prison)?

Also Trump is better than Hillary on foreign policy. The fall of the American Empire

"My life is shyt, so I want everyone else's life to be shyt as well."

What a childish thought process.

 

[JahFocus CS]

I honestly think the people that want to see the downfall of the country are unstable, or completely incapable of understanding exactly how horrifying that scenario is. The US becoming unstable as a country would be a worldwide issue and certainly wouldn't end well for any that isn't in the 1%

Evidence that it'd end well for the 1% (those who don't have secure bunkers and the like)?

 

[JahFocus CS]

"My life is shyt, so I want everyone else's life to be shyt as well."

What a childish thought process.

When a person's life is shyt so other people can live good lives, then yes, fukk that

Especially when the people living good lives don't give a shyt and work to maintain that system?

 

[SirReginald]

Out the 4 we have to "choose" from, she is. By far..

Are you even voting

I said if Bernie doesn't get the nomination, then I'm voting for Trump.

 

[NoMayo15]

is that what u call the highest real unemployment rate in history?

Is that what you call police state USA?

Is that what you call "made in china" and "made in mexico?"

That is small "incremental" steps to the left?

I don't think left is what you think it means.

BTW, Hillary is the most hawkish corporate sponsor of terror in the last 100 years. There is not an intervention she doesn't approve of. She is Lindsey Graham is he was a woman.

Even the republicans know you can't run to the right of Hillary when it comes to war. Her record is top of the line pro-killing brown people.

Yeah, you're looking at this all wrong.

One, I'm going to need a source on your first claim.... I highly doubt real unemployment is greater now than it was in the 1930's or even 1970's.

Although this administration has done very little about addressing the militarization of the police, there have been some, again, incremental changes to protect both the rights and lives of police and citizens. What you have an issue with isn't the result of something Obama has promoted and pushed through. He has shown to be more than willing to meet with leaders of orgs like BLM to find solutions to this problem.

Third, I don't have a real problem with globalization and foreign goods. We get less expensive products which benefit working class people...both in the United States and abroad. Maybe not a liberal talking point, but it's my personal belief.

So yeah, there has been an incremental shift for a multitude of issues. None of these problems you address magically appeared in the last 8 years. They are the result of a generation of accepting right-wing talking points, of trickle-down economics, the war on drugs/poverty/crime, too big to fail, etc., etc. I think Obama was a good step in the right direction and Sanders would have been another good step. Clinton might be wrong on the Middle East, but Trump isn't any better....he just doesn't have a record to critique. There is no reason to believe he'd use the military any differently than she would. However, there's good reason to be he would be terrible on maintaining the rights of women and minorities.

 

[the cac mamba]

What the actual fukk is wrong with you Bernie or Bust fukks.

You didn't get your ideal candidate, so you're willing to help bring about the downfall of your country (which will doubtingly hurt the poorest and most disenfranchised of us)?
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what the fukk are you basing this on? it isnt facts