If ADOS Was Granted It's Own Territory Right Now, How Would That Play Out?

[The Fade]

You're confusing what im trying to say, im not saying they have kindship what im talking about is the transferring of ideals. As the Ruling class dies down (WASPs) another comes into the picture (Hispanics) now WASP like folks still at the top may decide to adapt the ideals of the ones coming in on some when in rome do like the romans do type thing. I dont mean mestizo eithers i mean hispanics that look like ted cruz and marco rubio, actual White people that just happen to be Spanish speakers

Hegelian Dialectic

ITs hard to explain to people

 

[Bawon Samedi]

states with 0 major natural resources for export (except Louisiana for oil), that’d be a disaster. Also hurricane and tornado prone

I’ll pass

Japan doesn't have natural resources. Relying on commodities especially like oil is dumb. Human capital>>>>>>

And GA is the 9th largest economy in the USA. And if my readings are correct its GDP is slightly larger than the United Arab Emirates.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Dont deny the agency of how ADOS has tackled this problem historically

No group has defined blackness on our level culturally- in the modern age

I forget the post but someone said this in another, they tossed aside the word african and replaced it with black which was to be more encompassing and actually one of the many things that led to the 1 drop rule. IT worked then but will it work now as the world becomes more globalized i dunno only time can tell

 

[T'krm]

Afristan

But I concur with an earlier post on the land of our origins ie: deep south being ideal. However, as we have seen, the situation- along with the history-virulent, violent racism, makes that almost perilous!

 

[Barnett114]

states with 0 major natural resources for export (except Louisiana for oil), that’d be a disaster. Also hurricane and tornado prone

I’ll pass

You're not ADOS, you're Panamanian

You can't vote on something you aren't apart of

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Nobody asked for Liberia. In fact it was a racist USA experiment.

rambling for pages on hypotheticals. Why not discuss something that exists? i.e Liberia.

It is land granted to ADoS and a country where you can not gain citizenship unless you have black African roots.

Y'all in here talking about getting Georgia and the Carolinas and shyt come on be real.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

You're confusing what im trying to say, im not saying they have kindship what im talking about is the transferring of ideals. As the Ruling class dies down (WASPs) another comes into the picture (Hispanics) now WASP like folks still at the top may decide to adapt the ideals of the ones coming in on some when in rome do like the romans do type thing. I dont mean mestizo eithers i mean hispanics that look like ted cruz and marco rubio, actual White people that just happen to be Spanish speakers

Are you saying Biracial ADOS will adopt such ideas? Either way how will such ideas work in a majority Black/ADOS nation especially when that mixed population has a history of identifying as Black? And forgot to mention in this Latin nations the mixed population nominally outnumbers the Black one.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

rambling for pages on hypotheticals. Why not discuss something that exists? i.e Liberia.

It is land granted to ADoS

Y'all in here talking about getting Georgia and the Carolinas and shyt come on be real.

Because no one freaking asked for Liberia. Did I not say it was a racist experiment? And if you find this topic stupid then don't discuss it simple.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Dont deny the agency of how ADOS has tackled this problem historically

No group has defined blackness on our level culturally- in the modern age

Facts. These people are comparing how ADOS identify which is based mostly on lineage/DNA to how those in Latin world does which is based on just phenotype.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

Are you saying Biracial ADOS will adopt such ideas? Either way how will such ideas work in a majority Black/ADOS nation especially when that mixed population has a history of identifying as Black? And forgot to mention in this Latin nations the mixed population nominally outnumbers the Black one.

Like I said we possibly wont see this change in our lifetime, it will be a few generations after us especially given the pattern of how things are going, and about the bolded that is not case, especially in a place like brazil. They have highest number of black people outside of Africa, USA comes in 2nd place right after them in fact that leads to the hyper-descent aspect i was talking about the portugeuse and Spaniards specifically did this to boost their numbers

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Because no one freaking asked for Liberia. Did I not say it was a racist experiment? And if you find this topic stupid then don't discuss it simple.

It’s what you got something that actually exists and it answers the question in OP.

but you’re right. Nothing to discuss. Since the land would need to be “granted”. I’ll let y’all have y’all pipe dreams

 

[Black Nate Grey]

If ADOS should imitate an African nation it should be Ghana, Senegal, Tanzania or Botswana not Nigeria.... Where most its educated lives in the diaspora. And no we don't need a culture shift. We have a significant Black middle class who are into STEM, Business/Finance, Government and Military to carry us. Only people who think we need a cultural shift is those who only think ADOS culture is urban culture.

I'm talking about Nigerian's born and raised in the West. Emulate their relative success, more black doctors and engineers. Pretending there isn't anything to learn from them is a fallacy. This isn't the time for emotion to get in the way of practicality, feasibility and ways to reach your goal.
Not Nigeria itself. I know that country is a cluster fukk.

I know Tanzania, Botswana and Ghana are good examples. But that's far off, I'm talking about the initial steps required to even reach that state. To even get to the start line for example.

Basically last place in every metric, Black Wealth reaching 0 by 2050, leading in abortions, out of wedlock births, worst health, obesity, etc. Partly due to oppression from the state and white people, yes. (I refuse to use the word white supremacy anymore, makes me want to throw up).

Are you seriously going to tell me shyt is sweet? That as things stand right now, it would be a success? A cultural shift is absolutely needed. You would need to wean people off the identity of being an American, you would have to instill an almost militant stance on most issues, it would be need a ton of work.

STOP

Before you dig your own grave that I will gladly toss u in

Well godamn.

I don't think anything I posted required that visceral of a reaction. Stop being emotional and tell me what exactly you have contention with.

Is it the Nigerian's in the west example?

Would it have been more palatable for me to say emulate Jews or Chinese instead? Pretending there isn't anything to learn from more successful groups is peak ignorance, you will never succeed in your goal with this mindset.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Like I said we possibly wont see this change in our lifetime, it will be a few generations after us especially given the pattern of how things are going, and about the bolded that is not case, especially in a place like brazil. They have highest number of black people outside of Africa, USA comes in 2nd place right after them in fact that leads to the hyper-descent aspect i was talking about the portugeuse and Spaniards specifically did this to boost their numbers

The so called Brasil having the highest number outside of Africa is a shaky statement because its mainly based on Brasilians who have African ancestry even when they look White. And from what I read the Pardos(mixed people) outnumber the Black Brasilians who based on census are only around 15-17 million strong. I can be wrong because I see different numbers.

Anyways we'll see. But this thread seems to be about what's happening now.

 

[skokiaan]

I'm going to ask again. Show me a Middle Class person who listens to Rap music imitating violent hood lifestyle.

some people actually believe what these rappers say and think that's what black people are (stereotype)..that's why these pawgs be acting "cool" and "gangster" around you to make you believe they are "down"...etc etc

Botswana is not even a vacation spot lol. Cacs only go there for safaris

breh

And again why does this country need to "rattle cacs" for? Unless they try and do something to us.

fair trade?

And tourism is not even Botswana's main source of economic growth but diamonds and other natural resources.

still a source of income..some tswanas have worked in the tourism all their lives..raised and sent children to school and never seen a diamond or diamond mine

And if cacs cut us off so what? We'll just go to Russia, China(not a fan of them), India, Japan, some other African country, etc like many African nations already do.

colonialism 2.0..it's already happening and not so good breh

Anyway I'm not trying to argue with you brehs...jus trying to.enlighten and be enlightened.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

The so called Brasil having the highest number outside of Africa is a shaky statement because its mainly based on Brasilians who have African ancestry even when they look White. And from what I read the Pardos(mixed people) outnumber the Black Brasilians who based on census are only around 15-17 million strong. I can be wrong because I see different numbers.

Anyways we'll see. But this thread seems to be about what's happening now.

again hypo-descents, they are most identify as white not as black, i'm talking about purely Afro-Brazilians in this case

@O Fenômeno can you chime in on this

You would need to wean people off the identity of being an American, you would have to instill an almost militant stance on most issues, it would be need a ton of work.

I've actually stated this before and got negged to boliva, I'm not sure they are trying to hear this one bro

EDIT: for the record I can see why some black would take offense to this since black people made this country, but it's really a double edged sword