Idris Elba stars in "Beasts of No Nation" WE BACK (First Netflix Movie)

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I watched this the other night. The little boy (Ago) deserves a round of applause and a couple awards. But we'll see if he gets any :francis:
 
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Sorry to this I was disappointed brehs

Cinematography was great, actors were good but story line felt rushed and all over the place anddd


the pedo part wasn't even need smh

Still watching but what was the fukking point of that pedo scene? Just spoilt this movie for me. Leave that cac shyt in America.

You can't seriously think that white people in this country are the only ones guilty of this? The ignorance. This shyt is part and parcel of many African conflicts.
 

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You can't seriously think that white people in this country are the only ones guilty of this? The ignorance. This shyt is part and parcel of many African conflicts.

I didn't say white people are the only ones I just felt like it was forcibly put into this particular movies story line

And to keep it 100 I've seen many documentaries on child soliders both from Africa and the middle east and I've never seen it brought up again not denying that it happens as am sure it does but it just to me didn't feel right in this film
 
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I didn't say white people are the only ones I just felt like it was forcibly put into this particular movies story line
That point was directed at @GilSho.

I don't see how it was forcibly put into the storyline, when it's part of the inculcation of a child into the adult world of civil warfare - which is the basis for the adaption from the novel - where rape is explicitly detailed. I actually think Fukunaga didn't explore the emotional/mental side of that sharply enough. That scene was implicit to the point where it was shuffled between the rest of the film's deck, before you even had the chance to process the effect it had on Agu.
And to keep it 100 I've seen many documentaries on child soliders both from Africa and the middle east and I've never seen it brought up again not denying that it happens as am sure it does but it just to me didn't feel right in this film
Like I said above, not only is it part and parcel of African conflicts but it's in the novel itself. Probably best to read the book before judging whether it belonged in the film or not.

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As soon as they were getting established in the Commadants world and his de facto leadership and 'battalion' of children, I could feel the hints of sexuality/sexual abuse. I was thinking 'ok who is fukking who out here', all the misogynist talk of women, (without any) the raw violence and impressionable young boys so immersed in that world and demi god worship of Commadant, the fact they are at the beginning of puberty or teenagers, there is sexuality coming out of every pore, all these men, some very emotionally raw and some predatory out in the jungle, that is sexual abuse breeding ground, like churches, boy scouts, prisons. I was still disgusted and somewhat surprised when the scene happened, but it's a foregone conclusion rather then a shock, and a testament to Elba's charisma, though his character is not supposed to be idolized, even without his sexual abuse.
 
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It seems to be a part of guerilla culture. Soldiers in Afghanistan say it's a way of life for locals in tribes and those fighting. Kids are "groomed" as young as 8-10. I never been to prison but is that what happens when you go too long on the road without a woman? You start grooming boys?

Yeah,Commander was power hungry but I would have liked to see what brought him to the top and made him rsepected in the first place. All we see is that he is taller than everyone and giving the same instructions 25 times.

Very different to Apocalypse Now where I felt the horror and pain Kurtz has been through after witnessing the war.
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That point was directed at @GilSho.

I don't see how it was forcibly put into the storyline, when it's part of the inculcation of a child into the adult world of civil warfare - which is the basis for the adaption from the novel - where rape is explicitly detailed. I actually think Fukunaga didn't explore the emotional/mental side of that sharply enough. That scene was implicit to the point where it was shuffled between the rest of the film's deck, before you even had the chance to process the effect it had on Agu.

Like I said above, not only is it part and parcel of African conflicts but it's in the novel itself. Probably best to read the book before judging whether it belonged in the film or not.

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Did you read the novel? Or just gogle it

Always this is fictional
 

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I was still disgusted and somewhat surprised when the scene happened, but it's a foregone conclusion rather then a shock, and a testament to Elba's charisma, though his character is not supposed to be idolized, even without his sexual abuse...

The scene was also necessary partially because, without it, some in the audience might root for or glorify Idris' character.

I don't see why, as forcing a child to hack an innocent man to death with a machete while he pleads for his life or slitting a young man's throat for being knocked unconscious in the initiation gauntlet, was reason enough for me to hate his character.

Apparently some people's moral compass is so skewed that the only thing egregious enough to establish Idris as the bad guy was child molestation. :francis:
 
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Good to see some of the actors from Johnny Mad Dog. If you like this movie, you'll like that. It's based in Liberia.
 

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The scene was also necessary partially because, without it, some in the audience might root for or glorify Idris' character.

I don't see why, as forcing a child to hack an innocent man to death with a machete while he pleads for his life or slitting a young man's throat for being knocked unconscious in the initiation gauntlet, was reason enough for me to hate his character.

Apparently some people's moral compass is so skewed that the only thing egregious enough to establish Idris as the bad guy was child molestation. :francis:

For americans yes it had to be set up that way
you forget in this country a popular show was 24 where our hero was torturing people.
 

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His accent was a little off - you could definitely still hear some Hackney in there, but a bunch of mannerisms in his performance reminded me of uncles and some of the older heads in the family. The constant questions ending with "Heh? :birdman:", for one...

To be fair, I know a few West Afrikans that have never lived in England a day in their lives but still have little traces of a british accent.

I guess colonialism still has it's grips on people.
 

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To be fair, I know a few West Afrikans that have never lived in England a day in their lives but still have little traces of a british accent.

I guess colonialism still has it's grips on people.
:umad:you sound like you making shyt up. Unless you have actually lived there you wouldn't know. As someone that has actually lived there I can tell u it is more likely to find a west African with a faux amerikkkan accent than a british one. The only thing that has remained from colonialism (apart from the damage from the rape and theft) is the cane.

The don't acknowledge or associate with Britain at all.
 
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