IDF ground invasion of Gaza( Israel killed 2,700+ Palestinians) (Hamas is victorious)

[merklman]

what color is your mother, fakkit?

not CAC like you n yours



neg rep? catching some feelings there kid?

 

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ISIS is getting the orders from Mossad...

that report you're putting so much faith in cannot be verified. neither snowden, derspiegal nor greenwald or anyone else with direct access to snowdens documents have stated this. the report appears to originate in iran/bahrain. it is convenient for iran to say this, as isis is a natural enemy to them. same goes for bahrain's majority shia population

 

[Digga38]

i feel you, and i kinda agree. at the same time...that flight ban. that was right after kerry said he wasn't able to secure the siezefire. obama has been saying shyt along the lines of "israel has the right to defend itself, but this shyt needs to stop because it's hard for me to defend. i'm feeling lonely and used sticking up for israel"




""I hope they don't think that's an invitation to go do more," Kerry said. "That better be the warning to them."

A frustrated Kerry went on to say, "It's a hell of a pinpoint operation, it's a hell of a pinpoint operation," in what Ma'an described as apparent frustration over the civilian toll in the Israeli operation.

"We've got to get over there," Kerry said. "I think, Jon, we ought to go tonight. I think it's crazy to be sitting around. Let's go."
shortly therafter kerry was in cairo attempting to secure the siezefire. that day a shytty hamas rocket had landed about a mile from ben guoron (sp?) airport in israel. I strongly believe the flight cancelations were also obama flexing on israel, because soon nethanyahu was calling obama and begging him to lift the restriction..

now the news is a ceasefire will ocur within the next few days, whereas before the tune from israel was "this is going to be the op to end all ops. it's going to be a drawn out ground invasion"

Maybe Tel Aviv got on the horn real quick....

Hamas is handling the IDF from what it seems to me....

 

[Digga38]

that report you're putting so much faith in cannot be verified. neither snowden, derspiegal nor greenwald or anyone else with direct access to snowdens documents have stated this. the report appears to originate in iran/bahrain. it is convenient for iran to say this, as isis is a natural enemy to them. same goes for bahrain's majority shia population

they were feeding ISIS weapons against Syria....Were we not backing the Syrian rebellion this is without question....

ISIS is there to keep the rest of the region occupied and help with the dismantling of the arab states Tel Aviv wants

 

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they were feeding ISIS weapons against Syria....Were we not backing the Syrian rebellion this is without question....

ISIS is there to keep the rest of the region occupied and help with the dismantling of the arab states Tel Aviv wants

you need some real sources to say shyt like, "ISIS is there to keep the rest of the region occupied and help with the dismantling of the arab states Tel Aviv wants" till then, fact is, what you're stating is a conspiracy theory out of iran

we give weapons and training to vetted moderate rebels in syria. the reason you occasionally see isis with american weapons is because isis and the moderate rebels we back are enemies for the most part. isis sometimes kills them and gets their weapons. so that explains that. we are definitely not backing isis and there is no concrete evidence to suggest we are, minus hearsay out of iran

 

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Maybe Tel Aviv got on the horn real quick....

Hamas is handling the IDF from what it seems to me....

IDF is more getting handled in the media and on social networks. this is killing them. hamas has been putting up decent numbers though, dropping more israeli soldiers than usual. when it really comes down to it in a straight hamas soldier vs israeli soldier numbers battle israel is dominating. but all those civilian deaths are ruining israel in the media, and hamas knows that.

 

[MVike28]

the real victory here is that many of the media establishment jews are based in america. they are finally admitting their strategy sucks, and they realize that with the internet and social media it's becoming harder to justify the disproportionate use of force against the citizens of gaza. In the beginning the same lines were trotted out. "self defense" "gazans elected hamas!" "Palestinians want all jews dead!" "hamas hides their missles under homes and mosques, they want their civilians to die!" (this statement has some truth to it)

people are sick of it. this is the third time israel has had to do this, and them saying they are "mowing the grass" when speaking about blowing innocent women and children (and men) to shreds isn't a great pr move.

I like that obama and kerry are flexing on israel. Israel is facing a rude wakeup call, obama is only semi subjugate to them. he has some fight. he wants to make clear he isn't israel's total bytch like bush and his republicans


so the main qustion is, what now. the speaker of the knesset (israel's parliament) wants to annex gaza. the cards have really been shown. right wingers want to dominate the shyt out of gaza and maybe annex it, others think israel needs to fukk off and show gazan's some respect. quit crying self defense when it's plain to see they are the opressors, gazans making bad decisions or not

Did you not read the Foreign Policy magazine article i just posted?

CMON.

 

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Did you not read the Foreign Policy magazine article i just posted?

CMON.

no man, i'm sorry, i checked back a few pages but don't see it. must have missed it. I stand by what I say though. with obama, actions are so much more important than words. his actions say to me that he is not as much of a subjugate bytch to israel as bush is, that's plain fact really. direct talks with iran, stepping up saying the fighting needs to stop in gaza

 

[Blackking]

You see that is one of the biggest false statements spread around today, Before European colonialism, any placed that Muslim ruled Jews lived in peace and prosper, Muslims controlled Spain for hundred of years and the jews lived peaceful, when christians took control of Spain they kick all the Jews out and the Spanish Inquisition started. Most Jews found safe haven in the Muslim ottoman empire. This Israeli-Palestinian conflict is recent and came about because of Israeli with German and Russian ancestry who are not Semitic, basically colonizing land from Semitic people the Palestinians. It's Europeans who persecuted the Jews.

Best post here

 

[MVike28]

Netanyahu thought he was being lectured, and he responded angrily.

"Israel will not be blackmailed into signing an agreement with the Palestinians" that would endanger its security, he said. "He actually wagged his finger at the secretary of state," the senior diplomat told me. "Can you imagine? He wagged his finger at him."

Kerry was exasperated, but no more so than when the details of his meeting were leaked to the Israeli media. Within hours, Israeli Economy Minister Naftali Bennett accused Kerry of serving as a "mouthpiece" for anti-Semitic forces.


Kerry's advisors were convinced that Netanyahu, who feared a collapse of his government, was responsible for the leak and had approved Bennett's statement. Confronting Kerry was a standard strategy for Netanyahu, as it appeased the Israeli right -- but being called an anti-Semite was a bridge too far.
"A mouthpiece for anti-Semites? Just incredible. Really, there's only so much you can take," the U.S. diplomat told me at the time.



So basically Netanyahu treats Kerry and American diplomats in general like the bytches that they are.

Be a superpower, give 3 billion dollars in aid to a country, and get treated like hoes by said country's leadership brehs

@humble forever

 

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Best post here

just sayin, muslims didn't usually kill or expel jews, and even allowed them to hold positions in government and didn't restrict them in trade

but they made clear they viewed jews as second class citizens. and youre ignroing modern times-

nowadays muslims fukking hate the jews. a lot.

 

[MVike28]

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i see that...the jews have said that about obama too

that's the thing, they weren't saying that about bush cuz bush stayed down on his kness...obama *usually* remains standing and retains *some* dignity for us against the jews

"Mitt Romney had an interesting, controversial, and completely ignored line during his speech at the Republican National Convention. Mitt said “Obama has thrown Israel under the bus.” Mitt knew something the rest of us didn’t. The story is shocking- as much for the betrayal of one of our strongest allies- as for the timing.

President Obama has gone rogue. As I’ve said for 3 and a half years, the president is no friend of Israel. But I thought his betrayal would be timed for sometime after the election- perhaps on a quiet Thanksgiving or Christmas holiday weekend. The fact he has openly thrown Israel under the bus BEFORE the election is a disturbing sign for Jews (and for all Americans who support the right of our longtime friend and ally Israel to exist). Can you imagine what Obama is capable of after the Presidential election -- if he never again has to answer to Jewish voters?

On Thursday, August 30, Time magazine disclosed that U.S. Joint Chiefs Chairman, General Martin Dempsey, told reporters in London, “I don’t want to be complicit” if Israel chooses to conduct a military strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities. No top general would ever say anything like that without orders from the White House. Those are clearly Obama’s words, not Dempsey’s."
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...andoned-israel-and-jews-should-abandon-obama/
this is an article from fox, and it is in their interest to say bad things about obama's relationship with israel, as jews in the us vote democrat but,

this is obama standing up for us...republicans wouldn't do the same. give the man some credit, please...


i strongly stand by my statement that obama and john kerry as men are less subjugate to israel than the republicans. my opinion is the us is getting tired of supporting these rapings of gaza. israel won't stop the settlements either and tide is really turning against them. we have been mediators in these negotiations too many times, and israel is not making a good effort when they won't freeze the expansion of settlements. i think this offends obama's government more than it did the republicans. I think Obama isn't as big on israel trying to boss him around and saying "we can settle if we want". Europe is starting to stand up and say no to the settlements. so the tide is turning, it's just a matter of time. if Obama had another term i strongly believe Israel would be made to recognize Palestinian independence and Palestine would end up with a state


obama is smarter than yall give him credit for

 

[Blackking]

just sayin, muslims didn't usually kill or expel jews, and even allowed them to hold positions in government and didn't restrict them in trade

but they made clear they viewed jews as second class citizens. and youre ignroing modern times-

nowadays muslims fukking hate the jews. a lot.

Muslims in very modern times switched up their stances due to Zionism and the grimy world politics behind it. Not because they just hate Jewish people or whatever you're trying to say.

 

[MVike28]

i strongly stand by my statement that obama and john kerry as men are less subjugate to israel than the republicans. my opinion is the us is getting tired of supporting these rapings of gaza. israel won't stop the settlements either and tide is really turning against them. we have been mediators in these negotiations too many times, and israel is not making a good effort when they won't freeze the expansion of settlements. i think this offends obama's government more than it did the republicans. I think Obama isn't as big on israel trying to boss him around and saying "we can settle if we want". Europe is starting to stand up and say no to the settlements. so the tide is turning, it's just a matter of time. if Obama had another term i strongly believe Israel would be made to recognize Palestinian independence and Palestine would end up with a state


obama is smarter than yall give him credit for

The same Kerry who went groveling at an American Israeli soldier's funeral?

The same Israeli-American who is a traitor to his country.

First, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry (pictured below), currently on a Middle East tour to encourage a cease fire between Gaza and Israel, stopped by the hotel shiva to pay his respects to the Steinberg family. He immediately expressed his awe at the lengths their eldest son had gone to for Israel: "It's just a huge statement about a young guy finding a place that he was so passionate about, and giving his all, putting himself on the line," he said. "It's an amazing story."



Kerry entered and exited the room swiftly, surrounded by men in black and refusing to take any questions from press. But he spent a significant chunk of time — considering his tight and urgent schedule — chatting with Evie and Stuart about their son, and with Paige and Jake about their relationship with their brother and their own plans in life.

"How's your day?" Kerry asked as he sat down. "How's your day?" Evie asked back. "My day's going better than yours," he said.

"I am so honored to be here. I am in awe of your son, truly," Kerry told the family. "And I think you know, I served in the military, and I have great respect for anybody who... especially puts themself willingly in harm's way. And as an American, we're so proud of the affection that he felt, just the love he felt, and the roots he found in this country."




If it was any other (insert nationality)-American who went to fight for another country's army they'd be called terrorists.

Carry on spinning breh