IDF ground invasion of Gaza( Israel killed 2,700+ Palestinians) (Hamas is victorious)

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Nothing is worse then what Bush did to Iraq.

The slaughter in Gaza is being done by troops from Israel not Americans.
Sometimes being a bystander is worse or in this case giving weapons to the oppressive force whilst pretending to be diplomatic. I think the hypocrisy and deceitfulness makes this really bad. I see both sides tho.
 
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What are you saying?

I'm saying HAMAS ain't gonna win this, so they're being dumb reckless not giving up.
I kinda agree with you Napoleon for once. More kids are gonna die obviously it's not directly Hamas fault (I don't buy this human shields bullshyt it's just an excuse to kill civillians and allow as much collateral damage as possible) but they sure aren't helping the short term. It's like their long term goals outweigh the needs of the majority of palestine which is not having whole generations slaughtered and wiped out it's hella selfish.
 

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To my coli brehs this by far the best explanation of the current conflict courtesy of reddit.

Their goal is.. complicated. First you have to realize that the 'coalition' currently in power in Israel, headed by Netenyahu's Likud party, represent the more right-wing, hardcore section of Israeli politics. Bibi is a well-known hardliner; he has argued for decades for less negotiation and more military action. His right-wing war rhetoric is largely believed to have played a role in the assassination of Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin in 1995 by Jewish extremists due to his perceived 'complacency' and softer tone with Palestine.

Like most hardliners Bibi's policies are directed towards keeping Palestine 'subdued'; they believe (with some merit) that allowing Palestine to become a strong, independent and more developed nation is the worst possible thing that could happen for Israel, and so his policies reflect this notion by focusing on curtailing Palestinian attempts to develop. He was, for example, extremely against any attempt by Palestine to go the UN; he was totally against Fatah and Hamas normalizing relations; and he unashamedly threatened action against Palestine in both these instances.

This is what led to this war. When the three teenaged Israelis were kidnapped and killed in the West Bank, he immediately pounced on the opportunity to launch a massive, pre-planned and unprovoked military assault against Hamas. Despite the fact that Israeli intelligence knew within the first day or two that the teenagers were dead, this information was suppressed, and he used the excuse of trying to find the teenagers -- and that Hamas was directly responsible -- in order to justify this massive campaign of arrests and systematic destruction of Hamas in the West Bank. Only later did it become known that the teenagers were dead from the beginning, and that Hamas wasn't responsible.

It's important to note that this assault came less than a month after Fatah and Hamas officially formed their Unity government, headed by Fatah and Mahmoud Abbas and containing a minority number of Hamas political officials (many of whom were detained in the sweep). The campaign effectively destroyed the Palestinian Unity government by detaining most Hamas ministers and government officials.

As this occured, Hamas threatened retaliation. And rightfully so. The Israeli government manipulated the tragedy of three murdered kids to justify an attack that was 100% politically motivated. Israel ignored the warnings, and continued with their assault, eventually rounding up somewhere around 500 people, most of whom were placed in "administrative detention" -- the term for holding dangerous suspects without trial, charges or due process, for indefinite periods.

It seems fairly certain that Bibi and his generals orchestrated this entire war as a coup de grace against Hamas. Every step of this war has been a result of Israeli provocation and escalation. First launching a massive detention campaign, then a massive aerial bombardment, and then a ground invasion.

The 'goal' of their invasion is twofold. First, to destroy Hamas. Second, to punish Palestinians for their perceived "guilt" in allowing Hamas to exist. This is called the Dahiya doctrine. It is essentially a policy where Israel will now officially hold the civilian populations of their enemies responsible for the existence of said enemies. This is why you are seeing hospitals, power plants, schools, universities, civil infrastructure and the like, along with entire neighbourhoods, destroyed -- they are purposely targeting the civilian population of Gaza for systematic dismantling in order to cause as much suffering and 'backlash' as possible.

It's similar in a way to the policies of nations during WW2, where entire cities became valid targets and millions of people perished in mass carpet bombings.

So there you have it. Israel's goal is to stop being attacked. They have decided -- or rather, the current government of Israel has decided -- that the best way to do this is to literally torture the entire population of Gaza until they submit, and are no longer willing or able to even think about fighting back.
 

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Nothing is worse then what Bush did to Iraq.

The slaughter in Gaza is being done by troops from Israel not Americans.
Sometimes being a bystander is worse or in this case giving weapons to the oppressive force whilst pretending to be diplomatic. I think the hypocrisy and deceitfulness makes this really bad. I see both sides tho.
there comes a time when silence is betrayal - mlk jr
 

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I may be bugging and I'll admit I haven't followed this shyt at all but before this recent swing in Israel killing Palestinians weren't they gettin run outta town by Yasser Arafat and dem boys? I just remember growing up to hearing about how the Isrealities need aid and shyt, now their the aggressors how did that happen?

theyve always been agressors, now the media cant mask everything like they used to, social media, etc lets a little truth slip thru the cracks.
 

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Israel Police Say Public Bus Was Target of Terror Attack

Police in Israel are investigating two deadly attacks In Jerusalem today after an Israeli soldier was shot this morning and a public bus was attacked by a construction excavator.

Israeli police said that a mostly-empty bus was traveling through Jerusalem when an excavator driven by a Palestinian began to flip the bus into other cars. Three people on the bus were injured and a pedestrian was killed. Police shot and killed the driver of the excavator and ruled the incident a terror attack.

A short time after the bus incident, an Israeli soldier was shot and wounded near Hebrew University, also in Jerusalem. The assailant was riding a scooter and fled the scene. Police were investigating the attack.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/30-injured-gaza-attack-humanitarian-cease-fire/story?id=24829370


not the way to go on about this shyt but.. palestinians hate israel cause of their freedom. :troll:
 

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Garnier care packages boost Israeli soldiers' beauty regimens
Cosmetic donations spark backlash from opponents of Gaza offensive.
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Photo via Stand With Us Facebook page.


Care packages of deodorants, soaps and other cosmetics sent to female Israeli soldiers are sparking outrage online.

The Israel advocacy group Stand With Us posted(link is external) several Facebook photos of the care packages, which they said were donated by Garnier Israel. The post went viral and received more than 10,000 comments, most of them criticising the decision to donate the cosmetics to the soldiers.


  1. Dalia Zatara

    These products are to wash the blood stained hands of yours and your killings in Gaza. #israelwarcrimes #gazaunderattack#freepalestine #idfterrorism
    2 DAYS AGO



  2. Sara Hindi

    I didn't realize it was important to look good as you killed innocent civilians.
    3 DAYS AGO



  3. Jason McCormack

    Words can't describe how misjudged this post is, and how sad it makes me feel. I wonder if you put these Israeli women round a table with a group of female Palestinians, and they could discuss their pressing needs, would pampering be top of the list? Doubt it.... :(
    11 HOURS AGO



  4. Christina Emseis

    It's so sad. The Palestinians don't have basic humanitarian supplies. No food or clean water and the Israeli army is given luxuries. What is this world coming to??
    2 DAYS AGO



  5. Karen Neeson

    Another example of how ridiculous this situation is. The needs of an army being satisfied with beauty products while the innocent civilians in Gaza's basic needs of a safe place to shelter, food and water being denied. I'm hoping Garnier have sent an equal amount in real aid to Palestine
    A DAY AGO


  6. Though most comments were critical, supporters also weighed to thank Stand With Us for their support of the Israeli army:

  7. Gail Szusz

    Look at their smiles. Thank you Stand with Us and the women of IDF.
    4 DAYS AGO



  8. Anita Verawati

    Love you all sister, and your best smile .Brain, beauty, behavior, brave soldier!
    4 DAYS AGO



  9. Georgia Earnshaw

    I don't have two pennies to rub together right now but if I win big on the euro lottery I would donate a good portion to the IDF. I'm not Jewish but I feel very strongly the plight you suffer. It's a long shot but may you have peace one day!
    4 DAYS AGO



  10. JJ Diveroli

    Thank you, for giving to the IDF!
    4 DAYS AGO

http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201408041809-0024006
 

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I may be bugging and I'll admit I haven't followed this shyt at all but before this recent swing in Israel killing Palestinians weren't they gettin run outta town by Yasser Arafat and dem boys? I just remember growing up to hearing about how the Isrealities need aid and shyt, now their the aggressors how did that happen?

They never needed aid

They always were the aggressors
 
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