Ice-T/Soledad O'Brien Fox Special:Tupac & Biggie's Death Separated Crews[Preview]

[FreshAIG]

I doubt it was Poochie when Lil Cease and the Bodyguard both said they saw a guy with a bow tie. That def couldn't be Poochie. And Suge had like 25 cops on his security team.

Bro you gotta watch the documentary. They break all that down. Gene identified 3 out of 6 people. And since that bowtie nikka was in the news for like 7 years, by time he did the next doc on it, he identified him again because that's what he had been seeing in the news for years. The guy who they kept calling Amir (Who btw, does not exist) is a mortgage broker or something, who had never committed a crime in his life and literally no ties to them. And Lil Cease identified someone else as well. And Cease never saw the shooter, he said he ducked as soon as they started shooting in his recorded interrogation that they played. He did see a guy dressed in a bowtie that night but that wasn't that rare to see. I'm not doing it enough justice on how badly they squashed that entire Amir/David Mack theory that Poole ran with. They completely obliterated it. You just have to watch yourself

All the circumstantial evidence points to Poochie.

 

[Wacky D]

I refuse to believe Suge put a hit out on Biggie. And not on Puffy. I do not accept the idea that Suge had anything to do with Big's death. If Suge had gotten anybody shot, it would have been Puffy's ass and they would have wet up Puffy SUV. Him targeting Big makes ZERO sense whatsoever.

according to gene deal, they approached puff's car first.

it sounds like they settled for biggie since they couldn't get to puff.

And Pac was shot 5 times, we got hospital records, lead detectives, news reporters, all saying the same thing the day it happened.

that's what I thought the original narrative was.

long before 2pac himself spoke on it.

Are people dumb he just whooped a nikkas ass in LV and was on probation; bullet proof vest are highly illegal they feared getting cuffed by the cops far more than a swift rebuttal......

ehh

as much as I like pac, he stole on Orlando and then everybody else rushed em.

I wouldn't consider that an ass-whooping on account of 2pac.

 

[OJ Simpsom]

Bro you gotta watch the documentary. They break all that down. Gene identified 3 out of 6 people. And since that bowtie nikka was in the news for like 7 years, by time he did the next doc on it, he identified him again because that's what he had been seeing in the news for years. The guy who they kept calling Amir (Who btw, does not exist) is a mortgage broker or something, who had never committed a crime in his life and literally no ties to them. And Lil Cease identified someone else as well. And Cease never saw the shooter, he said he ducked as soon as they started shooting in his recorded interrogation that they played. He did see a guy dressed in a bowtie that night but that wasn't that rare to see. I'm not doing it enough justice on how badly they squashed that entire Amir/David Mack theory that Poole ran with. They completely obliterated it. You just have to watch yourself

All the circumstantial evidence points to Poochie.

Which documentary? Murder Rap?

 

[ahdsend]

That nikka was riding around with guns, affiliating himself with gangs, fighting, now all of the sudden parole violations were his fear? That's odd. And he definitely was worried about retaliation, which is why he told her girl to stay in the Hotel when they went to the club after. You're trying to brush it off as if he didn't think about it, but he clearly did.

being out on appeal aint the same as probation..

greg kading said the MGM fight woulda been a separate case for pac..

he already violated probation that year anyways when he didnt show up for the cleanup crew... still didnt get locked up..

i think that was for the fight with allen hughes...

the judge said they wasnt gonna imprison him on some misdemeanor while the big appeal for sex assault was still going on....

whatever he did in vegas was completely separate from the NY sex abuse case...

and thats if the video even got out... it aint like tmz was around back then..

if theres no shooting does that video even get out?? only if orlando pressed charges...


Rapper Is Sentenced To 120 Days in Jail

Jail Term Put On Hold For Rapper Tupac Shakur

 

[kingofnyc]

maybe or maybe not. we really don't know that. pac has a tendency to be full of chit, but puff has an even greater tendency to be a snake in the grass.

and I like how you tried to throw the "1 nikkaz in the game" chit in there on the sly. lol. stop it.

well who was the number 1 rapper
and the number 1 CEO in 1995

 

[Renzo]

Bro you gotta watch the documentary. They break all that down. Gene identified 3 out of 6 people. And since that bowtie nikka was in the news for like 7 years, by time he did the next doc on it, he identified him again because that's what he had been seeing in the news for years. The guy who they kept calling Amir (Who btw, does not exist) is a mortgage broker or something, who had never committed a crime in his life and literally no ties to them. And Lil Cease identified someone else as well. And Cease never saw the shooter, he said he ducked as soon as they started shooting in his recorded interrogation that they played. He did see a guy dressed in a bowtie that night but that wasn't that rare to see. I'm not doing it enough justice on how badly they squashed that entire Amir/David Mack theory that Poole ran with. They completely obliterated it. You just have to watch yourself

All the circumstantial evidence points to Poochie.

Keep in mind alot of the details in the confession was corroborated. Keefe d said he was there at the concert in Anaheim which lil cease said thats where he saw him, says he was at vibe party which Eugene deal placed him there as well. Nobody is going to lie on a fed case where you and your whole family might get locked. Keefe D spilled his guts on everything he knew. It was either that or go away for a long long time.

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

I remember somebody saying that puff & pac didn't mess with each other, and puffy used to say to henchman "when are you gonna get rid of him?"

not saying that these accussations are true, but theres definitely a history there.





yea. I thought I was watching law & order a couple of times.

whats corny is how ice t claims he was friends with pac, but then goes on to put out this smear-piece. he even played the generic "biggie didn't do anything wrong" card, even after a documentary in tribute to biggie was aired on TV and kept it 100 about his antics in California after pac's death.

Thought they should of balanced out the Quad shooting with evidence from both sides.

They clenched onto that Biggie/Stretch audio like it was gospel.

Ice T "hmmm hmmmm" church nodding like it was divine revelation.

With the Funk Flex cherry on top.


They should've followed that up with Pac's POV.


Talk to EDI about it.He was right there during the Vegas segment.


Throw these documents in there

This is what the trained physicians said.......How do you not include that if you're trying to "get to the bottom of it"?

These folks waited until Afeni died to put this smear campaign into overdrive.

It all feels connected to me.That garbage azz movie, Wack100, Funk Flex, Ice T Drink Champs bullshyt...etc..etc.

Funk Flex and Ice T basically started early promotion on this shyt months ago.Already had it coordinated.

But yeah....In a game of wits, they ain't wanna see Afeni.

Scared she'd go "Panther 21" on they azz

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Cats are going way too far calling this a "smear campaign". Unless I got solid evidence that Puff or Jimmy had something to do with producing that Fox show, what purpose does it serve anyone to "smear" Tupac?

It was a lazy ass, infotainment money grab capitalizing off the new interest in Pac due to the movie and B.I.G. due to it being 20yrs after his murder, and possibly trying to beat the punch in grabbing viewers before Kading's USA Murder Rap mini-series drops next year. But that doesn't make it an intentional smear campaign.

Don't confuse greed and incompetence for bias.

 

[Skip b]

according to gene deal, they approached puff's car first.

it sounds like they settled for biggie since they couldn't get to puff.





that's what I thought the original narrative was.

long before 2pac himself spoke on it.





ehh

as much as I like pac, he stole on Orlando and then everybody else rushed em.

I wouldn't consider that an ass-whooping on account of 2pac.

Tupac one shot koed him before he got jumped...partcipate in more PAC slander brehs

 

[kingofnyc]

I doubt it was Poochie when Lil Cease and the Bodyguard both said they saw a guy with a bow tie. That def couldn't be Poochie. And Suge had like 25 cops on his security team.

i don't understand these nikkaz falling for the greg kading okie-doke / poochie bullshyt

even when soledad is talking with reggie wright jr and he implies it was poochie, she counters with has anybody ever confirm poochie being at the peterson automotive museum never less not fitting the description of the shooter from the car




some of thes posters on here are fukking unbelievable

 

[Wacky D]

well who was the number 1 rapper
and the number 1 CEO in 1995

death row was always bigger.
bone thugs were bigger draws.

 

[Renzo]

i don't understand these nikkaz falling for the greg kading okie-doke / poochie bullshyt

even when soledad is talking with reggie wright jr and he implies it was poochie, she counters with has anybody ever confirm poochie being at the peterson automotive museum never less not fitting the description of the shooter from the car




some of thes posters on here are fukking unbelievable

Was Poochie supposed to tell Ray Ray and the set he was headed down to the Peterson museum to participate in a high profile hit? Use your brain. He was Suges number one shooter for a reason. He got shyt done. You would only need 2-3 ppl tops to pull it off..he let off 5 shots and they all hit their target. Dude was real about his business. He didn't even hang around deathrow like that..no functions etc he was strictly a gun for hire, so it's not like people would be like "we saw Poochie shooting" ..dude was a killer that knew what he was doing and he laid in wait for the perfect opportunity.

 

[Wacky D]

Thought they should of balanced out the Quad shooting with evidence from both sides.

They clenched onto that Biggie/Stretch audio like it was gospel.

Ice T "hmmm hmmmm" church nodding like it was divine revelation.

With the Funk Flex cherry on top.


They should've followed that up with Pac's POV.


Talk to EDI about it.He was right there during the Vegas segment.


Throw these documents in there
This is what the trained physicians said.......How do you not include that if you're trying to "get to the bottom of it"?

These folks waited until Afeni died to put this smear campaign into overdrive.

It all feels connected to me.That garbage azz movie, Wack100, Funk Flex, Ice T Drink Champs bullshyt...etc..etc.

Funk Flex and Ice T basically started early promotion on this shyt months ago.Already had it coordinated.

But yeah....In a game of wits, they ain't wanna see Afeni.

Scared she'd go "Panther 21" on they azz

well-said

for a guy whose hospital visit was well-publicized, I don't know why they didn't just simply pull up the files.......well we know why.

I didn't even get that far into thinking about that while watching this bullchit, because I couldn't wrap my mind around the big stretch tape being treated like the be-all/end-all. the same big stretch that pac disowned for switching sides.

 

[kingofnyc]

Bro you gotta watch the documentary. They break all that down. Gene identified 3 out of 6 people. And since that bowtie nikka was in the news for like 7 years, by time he did the next doc on it, he identified him again because that's what he had been seeing in the news for years. The guy who they kept calling Amir (Who btw, does not exist) is a mortgage broker or something, who had never committed a crime in his life and literally no ties to them. And Lil Cease identified someone else as well. And Cease never saw the shooter, he said he ducked as soon as they started shooting in his recorded interrogation that they played. He did see a guy dressed in a bowtie that night but that wasn't that rare to see. I'm not doing it enough justice on how badly they squashed that entire Amir/David Mack theory that Poole ran with. They completely obliterated it. You just have to watch yourself

All the circumstantial evidence points to Poochie.

no disrespect homie - i think you should revisit that murder rap documentary that you been supporting before posting a bunch of inaccuracies

but lemme drop da facts
and again no diss, even tho you avoided my last reply toward you



it wasn't eugene deal that had named 3 wrong outta 6 suspects, that was some random jail bird nikka whom claimed to be inna cell with someone that had info on biggie murder (the dude was a complete joke and i alwayz was skeptical of why kading spent like 10-15 minutes on this)
but the truth is eugene deal puff body guard was given a photo line up of several suspects, he told the police that the person whom cease ID & approach puff vehicle wasn't on photo line up - i believe he even told them twice, thereafter they told him "well pick the person that most resemble the shooter" so he did... and few years later is when giving another photo line up but this time with amir on it.... he immediately pick him out without any hesitation. so back to greg kading bytch ass and his bullshyt murder rap doc he narratives that eugene picked a different shooter at 1st and says years later the LA times posted a photo of amir muhammed as the a suspect and this influence his decision - deceiving the viewer and not completely explaining the whole entire story is what makes kading as fukking scum bag.
and what do you mean lil cease ID someone else - he was the one that described the shooter for the police to draw this image

 

[Stick Up Kid]

LAPD hiding all this proof and getting Greg Kading to pin it on a Dead Gang Member (Poochie) was a way to excuse them of any blame and not have one of the most corrupt scandals in law enforcement history go down. Shoot was Amir Muhammed, organized by David Mack via Suge/Reggie Wright.

That Poochie theory has always been a farce, and this Doc proved it.