I think the Cleveland Cavaliers are deserving of a lowkey thread

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The Pelicans had the same record as the cavs earlier this week and no other all star or "lebron James" hof caliber player on there team and they are in the west. How could you say they are a shytty team and big up the cavs?? And if you were a gm and took love over ant Davis you would lose your job that exact day.

Pelicans are on a sh*tty team. I'm saying that lowkey the Cavs made some incredible moves that will put them in a good position in May, that's the point of this thread, I'm not saying the Cavs have been a great team up to this point :snoop:
 

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This is what bothers me about the whole East/West disparity narrative.

:whoa: No one with an IQ above room temperature would argue that there are significantly more talented teams in the West, and that is a "deeper" conference, but that doesn't change the fact that only 2 or 3 are true contenders to make it to the Finals. Likewise, the East has only 2-3 potential Finals teams, but a dumpster fire from the 5-seed on down. You could certainly argue that it is more likely for the best teams in the West to get knocked out earlier than they should due to the wealth of talent, poor matchups, and whatnot, and it would be a valid argument, but it is usually the glut of teams in that 3rd-6th seed range that end up feasting on each other and furthering the narrative.

Ultimately, you tend to see the same results from each conference from the 2nd round of the playoffs onward barring injury, i.e. two of the best three teams making the conference finals and very few upsets. Especially with the first round expanded to 7 games, the NBA playoffs system is simply not built for 4-8 seeds to make, let alone win, the Finals.

:manny:You will likely never see another 1995 Rockets or 1999 Knicks (lockout-shortened season) again without extreme circumstances -- such as OKC potentially this year with their early-season injuries.

But even the 1995 and 1999 Rockets / Knicks were very exp teams. The Knicks had injuries during the season and the Rockets had the best player in the league in Hakeem. The rockets also traded for Clyde drexler the year in the middle of the season.

But you are right brotha. It is between the Cavs, Bulls, Spurs, OKC and Clippers. To go to the finals. Those teams have the right mix of veterans, superstars and exp. folks just caught up in this illusion of NBA parity. That is just regular season parity.....the playoffs are a difference.
 

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Bosh impact on miami was bigger than stats. Love is no chris bosh
You might be right but for all the positive Impact he had, he would also have negative impact with piss poor rebounding, he averaged 5.5 rebounds in the playoffs last 2 season :scust: (there's a reason Lebron was the best rebounder on that team) and getting abused in the post by bigger players. Let's not act like Bosh had no faults in his game the same way Kevin Love does.
 

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If you think atl or Toronto are going further than cleveland then you don't know basketball. But let y'all tell it.

Huh? :dahell:

The Cavs look like shyt & the Hawks are playing some of the best basketball of ANY team the last decade. TOR maybe nah but Hawks are DEFINITELY going further than CLE this yr
 

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Huh? :dahell:

The Cavs look like shyt & the Hawks are playing some of the best basketball of ANY team the last decade. TOR maybe nah but Hawks are DEFINITELY going further than CLE this yr

Do you think they can sustain the hot shooting?
 

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Do you think they can sustain the hot shooting?

You realize the reason were getting great shots is:

1. Coach Bud is a genius and our ball movement gets us GREAT shots. People think were taking difficult shots and just getting lucky. We actually are taking high percentage shots with a team full of shooters

2. Our defense is amazing & creates easy shots for us too.

So if we continue to buy into the system like we've been doing then yes
 

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Huh? :dahell:

The Cavs look like shyt & the Hawks are playing some of the best basketball of ANY team the last decade. TOR maybe nah but Hawks are DEFINITELY going further than CLE this yr
Your getting way too hyped off the regular season. Congrats your the NBA champs in January :mjlol:

P.s. How is your defense amazing when the Cavs dropped 127 on you guys, going 9/9 from 3point land in the first Q?
 

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Your getting way too hyped off the regular season. Congrats your the NBA champs in January :mjlol:

P.s. How is your defense amazing when the Cavs dropped 127 on you guys, going 9/9 from 3point land in the first Q?

1. That game happened before this streak

2. We have the best defense in the NBA during this streak

And why wouldn't we be hyped...this is an unbelievable stretch of basketball for us
 

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P.s. How is your defense amazing when the Cavs dropped 127 on you guys, going 9/9 from 3point land in the first Q?
The team is ranked 5th defensively, they're elite defensively.

That's like saying the Cavs aren't good offensively because they only scored 91 against the Heat on Christmas
 

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You might be right but for all the positive Impact he had, he would also have negative impact with piss poor rebounding, he averaged 5.5 rebounds in the playoffs last 2 season :scust: (there's a reason Lebron was the best rebounder on that team) and getting abused in the post by bigger players. Let's not act like Bosh had no faults in his game the same way Kevin Love does.

Never said he had no faults, even lebron had his faults
 

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You realize the reason were getting great shots is:

1. Coach Bud is a genius and our ball movement gets us GREAT shots. People think were taking difficult shots and just getting lucky. We actually are taking high percentage shots with a team full of shooters

2. Our defense is amazing & creates easy shots for us too.

So if we continue to buy into the system like we've been doing then yes

I understand the game and how y'all play it.
I'm not knocking the Hawks I actually gave them props in another thread this morning.
Just like you admitted the team is on a streak, that's why I asked do you think they can sustain the hot shooting because no matter how open you are you can still miss a shot. If you ask me the Hawks ability to sustain the hot shooting is what's going to determine how far they go.
Defensively and Offensively y'all look damn good though :salute:
 

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But even the 1995 and 1999 Rockets / Knicks were very exp teams. The Knicks had injuries during the season and the Rockets had the best player in the league in Hakeem. The rockets also traded for Clyde drexler the year in the middle of the season.

But you are right brotha. It is between the Cavs, Bulls, Spurs, OKC and Clippers. To go to the finals. Those teams have the right mix of veterans, superstars and exp. folks just caught up in this illusion of NBA parity. That is just regular season parity.....the playoffs are a difference.
The Clippers have a 0% of going to the Finals.

They won't win a round
 

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Pelicans are on a sh*tty team. I'm saying that lowkey the Cavs made some incredible moves that will put them in a good position in May, that's the point of this thread, I'm not saying the Cavs have been a great team up to this point :snoop:

I was saying that the pelicans are overachievers at this point, they are probably not even expected to make the playoffs in the west but they are in the hunt and could easily make it if they go on a nice streak after all star break. The cavs were expected to be the best team in the league and are stinking it up so far compared to they expectations, only way I see them turning it around is if LeBron has a mvp second half of the season. They team looks nice on paper but they are a still a very flawed team with a ball dominant core and lack of defense even after the trade
 

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I was saying that the pelicans are overachievers at this point, they are probably not even expected to make the playoffs in the west but they are in the hunt and could easily make it if they go on a nice streak after all star break. The cavs were expected to be the best team in the league and are stinking it up so far compared to they expectations, only way I see them turning it around is if LeBron has a mvp second half of the season. They team looks nice on paper but they are a still a very flawed team with a ball dominant core and lack of defense even after the trade

:laff: Just stop posting breh. The Spurs ran through the Heat with 3 HOF players, have the same core, and suddenly the Cavs are the team to beat? :dead:
 
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