"I started this running back playing QB sh!t" - Mike Vick on RG3

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Crumpler didn't do shyt after vick but eat tho. Plus white was a rookie and barely got on the field at first, that's why he didn't do anything while vick was there, second year white was still at best a 3rd option but he played well. I'm not saying vick was steve young out there, but he didn't necessarily have great receivers I mean if alge crumpler was your top guy and see that he couldn't start anywhere after vick left should say something. Most falcons fans can tell you that they depended on mike to do too much instead of building a balanced team like ryan has now. I will admit turner aint doin shyt now for real, but you cant compare what vick had to roddy white now, or tony gonzales, or julio.

Vick breaking his leg in 03 and the abysmal season that followed made us get rid of Dan Reeves who to this day is the best coach that he's ever had. Before '10 the best season Vick had as a passer was in 02.

After Dan Reeves left we had a coaching staff in Atlanta that never held Vick accountable for shyt and never made him hone his craft. The type of offense that we ran under Mora and his guys was not that well suited to Vick's strengths. Mike Mularkey, while not that great for Ryan, would have been PERFECT for Vick.
 

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Not really they are pretty similliar in that theyre strength throwing was the deep ball..touch passes accuracy and intermediate passes both were not very good at

lol at Cunningham out of the league becauae of racism this site never fails
I was trolling on the racism line, I got a few bites so Im satisfied.

and I didnt call Randall a great passer, but at those things he was better than Vick.

No, Randall was out of Football for the similar reasons that VY is out of Football. They didn't think he can throw. He wasn't nothing like Vick in that regard, coaches, scouts and executives think Vick can throw. They just don't think he can stay healthy.
nah, Randall was out of the league because NFL teams thought he was a bad apple and wouldnt accept being a back up. It had nothing to do with his throwing ability.

The fact that Randall's numbers are similar to Vick's just on raw data despite the differences in the passing eras is a statement to how poor of a passer Vick is compared to Randall.

Randall also had some terrible OLines in Philly.
 

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Vick breaking his leg in 03 and the abysmal season that followed made us get rid of Dan Reeves who to this day is the best coach that he's ever had. Before '10 the best season Vick had as a passer was in 02.

After Dan Reeves left we had a coaching staff in Atlanta that never held Vick accountable for shyt and never made him hone his craft. The type of offense that we ran under Mora and his guys was not that well suited to Vick's strengths. Mike Mularkey, while not that great for Ryan, would have been PERFECT for Vick.

I agree with that. I think if he were in atl now he be doing at least as good as ryan.
 

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I was trolling on the racism line, I got a few bites so Im satisfied.

and I didnt call Randall a great passer, but at those things he was better than Vick.


nah, Randall was out of the league because NFL teams thought he was a bad apple and wouldnt accept being a back up. It had nothing to do with his throwing ability.

The fact that Randall's numbers are similar to Vick's just on raw data despite the differences in the passing eras is a statement to how poor of a passer Vick is compared to Randall.

Randall also had some terrible OLines in Philly.
Contradictions.

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Randall never helped his OL's either. For crying out loud, he lost his starting job to Rodney Peete because of PLAY and Peete went 9-3 with a talented Eagles team.

It's one thing to like Randall more than Michael but it's another to lie your ass off.
 

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Contradictions.

:ufdup:

Randall never helped his OL's either. For crying out loud, he lost his starting job to Rodney Peete because of PLAY and Peete went 9-3 with a talented Eagles team.

It's one thing to like Randall more than Michael but it's another to lie your ass off.
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there is nothing contradictory about it. The league thought Randall was old and past his prime. What are you talking about?

And his last season in Philly sucked ass, no doubt. That Philly team was not that talented outside of Waters and Gardner. THat defense was not the same, and Randall was like 32 or 33.

Randall's raw numbers are better than Vick's in what was not a pass friendly league.
 

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Mastermind with some revisionist history regarding Randall
 

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there is nothing contradictory about it. The league thought Randall was old and past his prime. What are you talking about?

And his last season in Philly sucked ass, no doubt. That Philly team was not that talented outside of Waters and Gardner. THat defense was not the same, and Randall was like 32 or 33.

Randall's raw numbers are better than Vick's in what was not a pass friendly league.

No it's not. Not even. You need to fall back on this one.
 

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random, but:

I always wonder what would have happened to Bobby Petrino and the Falcons had Vick not got hocked up for dogfighting...
 

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RG3 is what people thought Vick would be coming out of Virginia Tech. Vick couldn't throw accurately for shyt though. Still can't. Nicca's trash as a QB. :yeshrug: RG3 the future. :myman:
 

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even if you think he a bum Vick did open the door for the "athlete" to get a shot at qb

before him it was a no brainer to switch these type of qbs to RB/WR/S or whatever

even Eric Crouch who the media loved to death couldnt get a shot at qb no matter how much he begged

You just gonna dog out Slash like that bruh? :mjpls:
 
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