i never liked redman

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I saw a post prime Evil Dee, like 1997-ish when the glutton had set in, now mind you, I'm a Beatminerz stan, but the joke was too ripe, I yelled "The fukk you do, swallow Buckshot???". He was none too amused.

That was the SAME thing I was thinking. Dude was built like a Volkswagen. How you gon' be 5'6" and weigh more than 2 people............​

 

[Big Mel]

That was the SAME thing I was thinking. Dude was built like a Volkswagen. How you gon' be 5'6" and weigh more than 2 people............​

That shyt is symptomatic of true dysfunction. I hadn't seen him in mags or no shyt in few so it was super jarring. Like he swallowed a beach ball. I lost a little respect for him that day I can't lie.

 

[DJ Mart-Kos]

I always though Redman was a little dude till i heard him say I'm 6'1 with a big ass gun.

 

[NormanConnors]

I got Cormega over Redman , anybody disagree??

Yep

Mega loses points with me because his flow and delivery is so off and on.

 

[Taadow]

you wont find redman on my shyt. too clownly.

I quoted this post to draw attention to a criticism that seems to be recurring in this thread: Redman isn't saying anything. The truth of the matter is a lot of that disconnect comes from his age. If you didn't know, Red is in his 40's so some of the stuff he's spittin' won't resonate with a listener unless they are in his age-group. Since I am, I can point-out a couple things in this track that some of you will miss. For instance, the reference to the 'two 'White' girls from Magic Garden' is from a 70's kid's show of the same name. The two girls were named Carol and Paula. The first rhyme starts with a reference from an 80's NyQuil commercial. The part where he talks about running up the phone bill is from an early 80's game show that came on Channel 11 when it was known as WPIX in New York/New Jersey........



As was stated earlier, Red is 'witty' but his vernacular leads some people to assume he's not intelligent. That couldn't be further from the truth. He wouldn't be in the game as long as he has if that were the case.​

These are the criticisms you get about Red the most.

Even in that infamous Biggie interview, he was talmbat how he liked Red better when he was "the fly nicca with the blowout"
instead of how he was comin' at the time. Then Red threw that sub at him on "Pick It Up".

 

[Walt]

@Big Mel Redman also swings a batting average half as good as Reggie Jackson. Which is apparently why other rappers talk backwards. Or something.

It doesn't matter though, Red's ape ass stans will find a way to justify all his trash lyrics and goofball songs because there's no reasonable discussion to have with stans. Seriously, some of you weirdo ass cats need to take a deep breath and get a new script with "it's not possible to like hip hop if you don't like ___" routine. I pray that you have some opinions that don't fall in step with what everyone else has told everyone else to think.

Redman is like rahhh rahhh like he had cerebral palsy. He couldn't be beat if you ran with 21 Jump Street or 90210. He wastes nikkas like toxic and is wet like galoshes. So don't sleep on his Huffman and Koos.


I've been having this discussion with my peoples since way back. I like a handful of his joints just fine, but the whole "Red is arguably top 5" shyt blows my mind. He's an obnoxious, dirty looking, tissue-in-his-nostril, stank blunt smoking, yelling ass gimmicky m.c. to me. With wack lines galore delivered with an obnoxious enthusiasm that somehow sells the lines to a lot of people.


The latter part of his catalogue has been especially horrific. And his entire image as this roachy gremlin version o Tommyf Chong is tired as fukk. He became such a caricature of himself in film and on tape I can't even take him seriously. He's the father to Luda's style. And I don't mean that in a good way.

 

[Walt]

That was the SAME thing I was thinking. Dude was built like a Volkswagen. How you gon' be 5'6" and weigh more than 2 people............​

I saw him at a spot and he was disgusting. I hooped with Rakim once, hung out with him another time through my cousin. He was mad small but had some long ass E.T. fingers. I have a photo of us chillin in Harlem and he's pointing at me. His finger looks like an unbelievably long blunt.

 

[notPsychosiz]

I got Cormega over Redman , anybody disagree??

Nah... Red > Mega... I got Mega over Nas though.

Music is weird. You like what you like.
I could name 1000 rappers that are tehnicaly better than Old Dirty b*stard, but I'd rather listen to ODB than 99% of them.

 

[pointproven214]

Yep

Mega loses points with me because his flow and delivery is so off and on.

exactly flow is choppy at best.

 

[SirBiatch]

First off, Redman can rap. Really well. His verse on "Buck 50" is better than some of your favorite underrated rappers' verses. That includes Cormega

Sure, his lines are often wacky and nonsensical. I don't have a problem with that. People forget that hip hop is built on charisma and thinking outside the box. At least it is for me. You can go really far with natural charisma and creativity.

fin

 

[FreshAIG]

@Big Mel Redman also swings a batting average half as good as Reggie Jackson. Which is apparently why other rappers talk backwards. Or something.

It doesn't matter though, Red's ape ass stans will find a way to justify all his trash lyrics and goofball songs because there's no reasonable discussion to have with stans. Seriously, some of you weirdo ass cats need to take a deep breath and get a new script with "it's not possible to like hip hop if you don't like ___" routine. I pray that you have some opinions that don't fall in step with what everyone else has told everyone else to think.

Redman is like rahhh rahhh like he had cerebral palsy. He couldn't be beat if you ran with 21 Jump Street or 90210. He wastes nikkas like toxic and is wet like galoshes. So don't sleep on his Huffman and Koos.


I've been having this discussion with my peoples since way back. I like a handful of his joints just fine, but the whole "Red is arguably top 5" shyt blows my mind. He's an obnoxious, dirty looking, tissue-in-his-nostril, stank blunt smoking, yelling ass gimmicky m.c. to me. With wack lines galore delivered with an obnoxious enthusiasm that somehow sells the lines to a lot of people.


The latter part of his catalogue has been especially horrific. And his entire image as this roachy gremlin version o Tommyf Chong is tired as fukk. He became such a caricature of himself in film and on tape I can't even take him seriously. He's the father to Luda's style. And I don't mean that in a good way.

You hate Redman like I hate Kanye. I disagree with your assessment of Redman but I pretty much can replace the highlighted part with exactly how I feel about Kanye West. I'm a use it in the next debate I have with someone about him.

Lol most of those lines you're quoting are all from the same song, his single off his second album. Did you ever sit with some Redman albums? I think you might feel differently if you go back and relisten. There's some artists I didn't get the hoopla for during the time or even now and then I go back and see what others were talking about, even if they never turned into my favorites, I understood the reason they're liked.

 

[Corndog]

Also one of the best punchline rappers, one of the few acts in music who had first three albums all considered very fukking good. Your favorite rapper doesn't have better discography than Redman based solely on his first three albums. Name me a a rapper/group with all three first projects at Redman's albums level. Only Outkast and KRS-One come to mind. Maybe Cypress Hill as well, they got 4 very good records in a row.

Scarface and Ghostface also come to mind. But at this point we're talking about elite catalogues in all of rap, and I honestly feel like Redman belongs in there on the strength of his first 3

 

[Big Mel]

Red killed this joint






"24 studded"


kinda gay. bejeweled pistol?

Erick Sherman jumped out that window for real.

 

[FreshAIG]

Red killed this joint






"24 studded"


kinda gay. bejeweled pistol?

Erick Sherman jumped out that window for real.

Redman in his prime is incredible

 

[eerieBell]

Mobb and Tribe.

Juvenile Hell is not that good.

I agree with Tribe tho. Totally slipped my mind.