I need a good reason why Iran shouldn't have nukes?

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I think most people agree they wouldn't go back full time. What are your biggest concerns? My biggest complaints are just the basic things. Those things that only a stable government can provide.

1. infrastructure - The feeling of knowing that power is always available unless your area gets hit by a major storm.
2. Red Tape and corruption - knowing that you don't have to bribe officials to get basic things like licenses, permits, electricity, phone lines etc.
3. Good Roads
4. Great higher education system.

I have my quarrels with the US but I wouldn't trade living here for a lot of places.

do you think that those same issues with stability are part of the reason people wouldn't want Iran to have nukes?
 

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It's like y'all never learned that life isn't fair. It what it is, we don't want them to have nukes because they don't like us, or our pall Israel. It's basic playground rules. How can y'all not understand that :heh:

We have the biggest guns, which is exactly why we get to dictate this shyt.

:smh: at y'all who think the world is a fair place. It's kill or be killed on this rock. Its been that way long before america even existed. That's how it's always been, and how it always will be. If your sad that its not fair then grow the fukk up :stopitslime:

i appreciate this argument. i have nothing to say to this argument

my concern is with morons who and punanis talking that "bully" talk or calling the Iranians "irrational" or talking some nonsense about islamic dictatorships

lets just speak on the real
 

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do you think that those same issues with stability are part of the reason people wouldn't want Iran to have nukes?

Iran is a rational actor. Even the former head of the Moussed agrees. And these problems i pointed out in Kenya, are internal problems, not foreign relation problems.

Iran is not insane or unstable at all. That regime has control over that country.
 

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Unfortunately we don't live in a world devoid of nukes, so wishing them all away isn't going to work. If Iran has nukes and it acts as a deterrent to them being occupied, yes I want them to have nukes. If Iraq actually had nukes pointed at Israel, what are the odds we would have actually invaded them? They're worse off now than they were with Saddam, and there's 1 million of them dead because of our occupation. Do you want that to happen to Iran?

Well thank fukk you and Shabazz the islamic retard don't run the world. They're never getting nukes, because sane people will not let them.
 

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I don't want anyone to have nukes. Answer the question, do you want Iran to have nukes. The only people who want Iran to have nukes are Iran

Once again Swagmar, you expose your lack of knowledge on foreign relations and have forced me to educate you.

Iran, according to the IAEA, thats the Internation Atomic Energy Association, is not currently developing nuclear weapons.

According to the CIA, thats the Central Intelligence Agency, Iran is not currently developing nuclear weapons.

According to Logc, that's reason, Iran is not currently developing nuclear weapons.

So the discussion we are having is based on a hypothetical. Hypothetically, Iran would be able to develop Nuclear weapons TEN years from now. 10. In 2022. That's when they would be able to DEVELOP nuclear weapons.

Israel has been involved in Wars involving Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
that many wars, and Iran was only involved in 1 major war. This war, which the American supported dictator Saddam Hussein, killed half a million Iranians who fought in DEFENSE of their nation, Saddam Hussein was aggressively invading Iran.

So lets take the hypothetical that Iran has 1 nuclear weapon. There is a matter of delivery systems, meaning how would they get such a weapon implemented and ready to be a threat. Lets say that they had a ICBM, GLOBAL delivery system that could hit NYC. Let's suppose that, even though only Russia has that.

Are you saying that this nation of 80 million, would use it on Israel, and kill maybe a million Israelis, only to then experience the wrath of the estimated 250-300 Nuclear Missiles that are possessed by the most aggressive nation in the region, Israel?]

You said that Iran is not a ration state actor... Is North Korea? They have been nuclear for 5 years... which state is more "rational"?

OPEN a book and turn of CNN.
 

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Once again Swagmar, you expose your lack of knowledge on foreign relations and have forced me to educate you.

Iran, according to the IAEA, thats the Internation Atomic Energy Association, is not currently developing nuclear weapons.

According to the CIA, thats the Central Intelligence Agency, Iran is not currently developing nuclear weapons.

According to Logc, that's reason, Iran is not currently developing nuclear weapons.

So the discussion we are having is based on a hypothetical. Hypothetically, Iran would be able to develop Nuclear weapons TEN years from now. 10. In 2022. That's when they would be able to DEVELOP nuclear weapons.

Israel has been involved in Wars involving Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
that many wars, and Iran was only involved in 1 major war. This war, which the American supported dictator Saddam Hussein, killed half a million Iranians who fought in DEFENSE of their nation, Saddam Hussein was aggressively invading Iran.

So lets take the hypothetical that Iran has 1 nuclear weapon. There is a matter of delivery systems, meaning how would they get such a weapon implemented and ready to be a threat. Lets say that they had a ICBM, GLOBAL delivery system that could hit NYC. Let's suppose that, even though only Russia has that.

Are you saying that this nation of 80 million, would use it on Israel, and kill maybe a million Israelis, only to then experience the wrath of the estimated 250-300 Nuclear Missiles that are possessed by the most aggressive nation in the region, Israel?]

You said that Iran is not a ration state actor... Is North Korea? They have been nuclear for 5 years... which state is more "rational"?

OPEN a book and turn of CNN.
This thread is about Iran getting nukes. I said I don't want them to have nukes, I didn't bring foreign relations into this at all, its a pretty simple god damn question. I live in America, I don't know where you dumb fukks live but I don't want a country that chants DEATH TO AMERICA to have a fukking nuke. Go suck a fukk you muslim fakkit

 
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This thread is about Iran getting nukes. I said I don't want them to have nukes, I didn't bring foreign relations into this at all, its a pretty simple god damn question. I live in America, I don't know where you dumb fukks live but I don't want a country that chants DEATH TO AMERICA to have a fukking nuke. Go suck a fukk you muslim fakkit

Chants in Iran: Death to America, the infidel - YouTube

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Half the world is saying Death to America, you ever wonder why? Instead of going at their religion, realize that millions of them are dying at the hands of America, the fukk you expect them to say, Kumbaya? 2000+ Americans die and this country wants to turn an entire region to glass, millions of them die and you don't think there would be some anger? North Korea hates our fukking guts, and they have nukes, but China backs them so we bytch up.

You're a clown, plain and simple, probably never even left the US.
 

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"Then came Shimon Peres, the defense official—and future prime minister and president of Israel—who was one of the creators of his own nation's secret nuclear program. Peres offered the Shah nuclear technology and the use of Israel Atomic Energy Commission experts. Fortunately for Israel, the Shah turned down Peres' offer, sparing Israel 'deep embarrassment and regret' decades later: The Israelis would have been helping their future arch-enemy go nuclear. The Shah said no. He did not need the Israelis' help. He already had American, French, German, and Canadian companies queuing up for big contracts with him."".

you can't make this shyt up.
 

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Half the world is saying Death to America, you ever wonder why? Instead of going at their religion, realize that millions of them are dying at the hands of America, the fukk you expect them to say, Kumbaya? 2000+ Americans die and this country wants to turn an entire region to glass, millions of them die and you don't think there would be some anger? North Korea hates our fukking guts, and they have nukes, but China backs them so we bytch up.

You're a clown, plain and simple, probably never even left the US.
Why do you assume that I cosign all the fukked up shyt our country has done? You have no clue what my stance on foreign policy is. Half the world is not saying death to america you dramatic a$$hole. It doesn't change the circumstance that we're in. An entire country of muslim people who chant death to america getting nukes? No. Not happening. Are you muslim, because almost everyone I've seen in this thread that cosign Iran getting nukes are muslim. Such a silly violent religion.
 

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This thread is about Iran getting nukes. I said I don't want them to have nukes, I didn't bring foreign relations into this at all, its a pretty simple god damn question. I live in America, I don't know where you dumb fukks live but I don't want a country that chants DEATH TO AMERICA to have a fukking nuke. Go suck a fukk you muslim fakkit

Chants in Iran: Death to America, the infidel - YouTube

Did you read anything I said a$$hole?


What do you want Iranians to chant? PEACE to America?

After I just told you they supported Saddam's invasion of Iran and the death of over 500k Iranians, many of them dying due to CHEMICAL WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, GIVEN to Saddam by America?

After the Shah of Iran was defeated by Mossadegh in DEMOCRATIC elections, and the CIA, of AMERICA, displaced him and re-instated the Shah? Where do you think Khomeini came from?

Iran was a LIBERAL, country known for its bad bytches and hash in the 70's and 60's, the fundamentalists took over after the Americans supported the dictator over democracy.

America has been THREATENING Iran NON STOP for the last 10 years, not to mention Israel. America has one of its largest fleets in the PERSIAN gulf, it's armies in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN, the 2 largest borders of Iran.

America has imposed the most BRUTAL sanctions on Iran for decades, intensifying in the last 5 years, causing economic despair in the whole country.

So I ask you, again, In what universe should Iranians be friendly towards the American military industrial complex, that wants them DEAD?
 

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Why do you assume that I cosign all the fukked up shyt our country has done? You have no clue what my stance on foreign policy is. Half the world is not saying death to america you dramatic a$$hole. It doesn't change the circumstance that we're in. An entire country of muslim people who chant death to america getting nukes? No. Not happening. Are you muslim, because almost everyone I've seen in this thread that cosign Iran getting nukes are muslim. Such a silly violent religion.



And this is what makes you a moron, nope, I'm not muslim you dumb shyt. That is where your stance comes from, you're probably from some shytty backwater state where everyone is white, you don't have a passport and all your info about Muslims comes from Google. Your foreign policy stance is "Muslims suck, therefore they shouldnt have nukes" nevermind the fact they're being killed like it's going out of style.

You have nothing to say about an Atheist state like North Korea, which also hates the US having nukes? These muthafukkas are literally trying to develop missiles capable of hitting Hawaii, but no word from you, because "Dey aint dem der mossleeems" fukking hick.
 
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