I know we supposed to hate the monarchy ..but dedicating all your life to service of the people is

[Raphaello]

Influence on what? The queen ain't in the room formulating British laws or foreign policy.

Yall showing your lack of geopolitical knowledge in this thread.

But what should I expect? This is TLR. Looks like its time for me to take another sabbatical and head over to Higher Learning

She literally has weekly meeting with the prime minister. We have NO idea what happens in those private meetings. It would be unrealistic to suggest she has never tried to sway politics in one direction or the other.

 

[Reflected]

I just don't care at all, if your entire life is dedicated to selflessness and improving humanity, I will care, if not, especially when in the position to do such with more attention than those that will be forgotten, it just underscores your uselessness.


And they do have power, to think something as symbolic as that, as long-standing as it is, and considering how much they generate for the country alone, they definitely have power, they have expressed powers, and I wouldn't take the Queen's seemingly non-partisan approach as a lack of political influence, they definitely have that as well.

 

[WhenWeWereKings]

Her monarchy was being supported by the exploitation of those nations. Aka that is where her money was coming from. Even after independence she would visit those countries and pet their puppet Presidents on the heads. So she clearly wielded power even though you are stating that it was mostly ceremonial, but she never returned the shyt that her predecessors looted.

Thank you. You can really tell how out of depth many coli posters are on this subject and they really should just shut the fuk about it.

 

[Seoul Gleou]

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

First of all no one insulted any Africans. You just made that up. Even Africans will tell you that many of their Presidents directly after independence were puppets for England. That is why so many of those original governments after independence were toppled because they were not there for the people they were in place for England.

Second of all the monarchy of England does have artifacts from those looted kingdoms. She has Benin bronzes as part of the UK Royal Collection. She resisted returning them to the Edo Museum of West African Art. In fact her foul relatives had just looted Benin and other West African empires a little over 100 years ago so people know that she still has their shyt.

Third of all why are you so vigorously defending that evil ass woman?

I'm defending intellectualism. We as a people tend to have an idea of how the world works where our view is either skewed or outright incorrect.

My people perish for lack of knowledge.

I'm the main person on here e-banging on white people whenever I get the chance to do so, so don't dare accuse me of "defending" evil people.

I stated my outlook at the beginning of this conversation. I dont blame any one white person or any one white family for what happened and continues to happen to black people.

White supremacy isn't upheld by one person. It's upheld by them all.

I think it's stupid and another sleight of hand being played on us as a people to turn our entire ire against the queen and the royals of England, another distraction to make us take our minds off the racists that are right here in front of us right now.

And you may say, well we can walk and chew gum.

And my answer to that would be, no we can't. Unfortunately, no we can't. And that has been proven with all of the distractions that have been thrown at us these last couple of years especially.

As far as the benin bronze, bro... I just Google searched that and on the front page of Google, it says that the bronzes were a GIFT from the Nigerian government. The English didn't steal it. It was given to them.

If thats true, then thats on the heads of the Nigerian folks who gave it away.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Be horrifically ignorant to history just to prove a very poorly thought out point brehs...

Some of you should really take an insight into history of the British Empire, because it gets horrifically brutal when it comes to the plight of black, brown, and indigenous peoples over the globe.

It's disgusting to see how the UK and the EU have tried to reframe themselves as not the fukking disgusting oppressors they are.

And some of you also should go on YouTube and listen to the works of Dr. Khalid Abdul Muhammad. Stop acting like a devil just because they act somewhat more civilized than the other devil is nothing less than a devil.

 

[Reflected]

Oh goodness, the Crown has expressed powers, there is no doubting that, now whether they would be checked on those powers is one thing, they definitely have influence as well, but some people are diving right into conspiracy.

 

[Luke Cage]

People been posting pictures of her rocking blood diamonds proudly, (which she still owned) and then asking why she was not liked.
Did she at least offer reparation to any of these countries? did she return any of the stolen artifacts that litter those british museums because if not, i don't get whats defendable about her.

 

[Paper Boi]

if she wanted to do something to serve the people then she should have redistributed all of her ill gotten wealth to them.

 

[Arithmetic]

such a beautiful story @Malcolmxxx_23

Fred.

 

[WhenWeWereKings]

I'm defending intellectualism. We as a people tend to have an idea of how the world works where our view is either skewed or outright incorrect.

My people perish for lack of knowledge.

I'm the main person on here e-banging on white people whenever I get the chance to do so, so don't dare accuse me of "defending" evil people.

I stated my outlook at the beginning of this conversation. I dont blame any one white person or any one white family for what happened and continues to happen to black people.

White supremacy isn't upheld by one person. It's upheld by them all.

I think it's stupid and another sleight of hand being played on us as a people to turn our entire ire against the queen and the royals of England, another distraction to make us take our minds off the racists that are right here in front of us right now.

And you may say, well we can walk and chew gum.

And my answer to that would be, no we can't. Unfortunately, no we can't. And that has been proven with all of the distractions that have been thrown at us these last couple of years especially.

As far as the benin bronze, bro... I just Google searched that and on the front page of Google, it says that the bronzes were a GIFT from the Nigerian government. The English didn't steal it. It was given to them.

If thats true, then thats on the heads of the Nigerian folks who gave it away.

Man shut the fuk up. Like I said yesterday, you internet nerds are just trying to gain cool passive aggressive contrarian internet debate points about a subject you're absolutely clueless about.

And no I have no interest in engaging any of you clowns in debates on this convo because I'm living in one of those former colonies. I see every day why she's hated.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

She literally has weekly meeting with the prime minister. We have NO idea what happens in those private meetings. It would be unrealistic to suggest she has never tried to sway politics in one direction or the other.

Well that would go back to what I said. If she's trying to "sway", then that means she is not in control. On the one hand, yall say she's solely responsible for what happened in Africa.

On the other hand, you say she has to "sway" politics.

Is it oochie wally or one mic?

Either she is the big bad, the sole cause of our woes, or she is, as I said, only a cog in a wheel, part of a system that's bigger than she was, that she had no real control over?

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

Man shut the fuk up. Like I said yesterday, you internet nerds are just trying to gain cool passive aggressive contrarian internet debate points about a subject you're absolutely clueless about.

And no I have no interest in engaging any of you clowns in debates on this convo because I'm living in one of those former colonies. I see every day why she's hated.

You telling me to shut up as if I was addressing you to begin with

I'm over here like Thanos. I dont even know who you are

 

[WhenWeWereKings]

Be horrifically ignorant to history just to prove a very poorly thought out point brehs...

Some of you should really take an insight into history of the British Empire, because it gets horrifically brutal when it comes to the plight of black, brown, and indigenous peoples over the globe.

It's disgusting to see how the UK and the EU have tried to reframe themselves as not the fukking disgusting oppressors they are.

And some of you also should go on YouTube and listen to the works of Dr. Khalid Abdul Muhammad. Stop acting like a devil just because they act somewhat more civilized than the other devil is nothing less than a devil.

Coli gon coli. They're clearly out of their depth on this one.

 

[OfTheCross]

Fred

RIP to the Queen. I got no reason to dislike or hate on her.