"I Know One Thing For Sure, Groh Gotta Go" **2020 Philadelphia Eagles Off-Season Thread**

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

poor mans Djax yea i can see that but that will be his ceiling at best. i mean i dont see the point of draft him that high if at best youre getting a #2 WR. i honestly wouldnt want him at 21. i think he will have trouble with playing outside & physical press corners.

just dont see it with Ruggs like everybody else. i think Reagor ends up having a better career then Ruggs. Reagor minds me more of Hill.

Your not factoring in that deep threat WR add value aside from their own production. They open up the middle of the field which will help Sanders, Ertz and Goedert. I have no crystal ball so I cant tell you who will have the better career- but there is nothing Reagor does better than Ruggs...that doesnt mean Reagor is a scrub but I cant see how you see them both and take Reagor over Ruggs...it almost seems like your being contrary bc everyone wants Ruggs. to each his own tho

 

[WaddupDoe!]

Your not factoring in that deep threat WR add value aside from their own production. They open up the middle of the field which will help Sanders, Ertz and Goedert. I have no crystal ball so I cant tell you who will have the better career- but there is nothing Reagor does better than Ruggs...that doesnt mean Reagor is a scrub but I cant see how you see them both and take Reagor over Ruggs...it almost seems like your being contrary bc everyone wants Ruggs. to each his own tho

not trying to be contrary at all i just not a Ruggs fan. dont see the hype.

i was high on Xavier Rhodes when he was coming out thought he would end up having a better career then who everyone was hyped on Dee Millner. i get the same feeling with Ruggs.

just wish howie can a way to get Jeudy.

 

[wire28]

if we getting a wr he gotta be all around no need to waste a 1st or 2nd on a one dimensional wr

 

[KingCesar]

Really not concerned about separation issues with Mims because he's a dog and easily one of the best contested catch receivers from this loaded class. Give him the 1 on 1 looks our WRs got last year and he's gonna go up and get that bytch.

See, that’s the thing. I don’t want guys who produce off contested catches. I want guys who get wide open so that they don’t have to make contested catches. Contested catches are nice, but separation is what makes the most productive receivers in the modern NFL. Michael Thomas, Amari Cooper, Tyreek Hill, Stefon Diggs, etc.

That’s my question with Mims (and I'm genuinely asking here): has he, throughout his college career, shown himself as a guy who can reliably create separation at the next level? If not, then I don’t want him. Not when there are guys like Aiyuk who regularly managed to separate from defenders at the college level who can realistically be available at #21.

dont think the receiver situation is as bad as most people think. We need a speedster on the outside that is for sure. Cant depend on D Jax at this point.

Our receiving situation is abysmal, and that’s not hyperbole. We have four proven pass-catchers on the team – DJax, Ertz, Goedert, and Sanders. That’s one 33-year old receiver, two tight ends, and a running back. Behind them is a declining WR1 coming off a Lisfranc injury in Alshon, a 2nd-year receiver in JJAW who was losing snaps to Rob Davis and Deontay Burnett, and a practice squad receiver in Ward. That’s unacceptable. This is a passing league and the Eagles have one decent wideout who’s at the tail-end of his career.

This is how I feel.

I would much rather get a linebacker and take a chance on someone like Hamler, claypool or whoever after the 1st

I could see spending a 1st on a falling elite CB prospect or a D-Lineman if they’re really the best player available, but linebacker? It’s the least important position on the entire team. Meanwhile, our best pass-catchers are a receiver with maybe two more years left in the league, two tight ends, and a running back. I'd take whoever the best receiving prospect is at #21 and #53 before I even considered drafting any LB.

 

[Ohene]

the smart move is to trade up and scoop Lamb or Jeudy, whoever is selected 2nd

 

[Box Factory]

I could see spending a 1st on a falling elite CB prospect or a D-Lineman if they’re really the best player available, but linebacker? It’s the least important position on the entire team. Meanwhile, our best pass-catchers are a receiver with maybe two more years left in the league, two tight ends, and a running back. I'd take whoever the best receiving prospect is at #21 and #53 before I even considered drafting any LB.

Ok but if all the guys who are worthy of and able to contribute at a 1st round level are gone at 21, then why not plug a huge hole with a potential elite piece ?

Past the top 3 WRs it's kind of a jumbled mess. Mims is to me pretty clearly the 4th best guy and I wouldn't be mad at that pick, but we can't just reach for the sake of getting any WR


You can get a wr with high level athleticism, production and size probably as late as the 4th round.

We gave 3 4th round picks. We can pick up a wr in the 2nd round that will be about the same level as the guy you would reach for in the 1st, and then add another high level wr prospect in the 3rd or 4th


We just spent all our free agency money on dts and corners. Taking another in the 1st would be silly when we have other holes that match up vale wise in the 1st

 

[Box Factory]

And all this LB is unimportant talk is ridiculous. Look how good Bradham was in our SuperBowl run. He was huge

You guys say it doesn't matter until nate Gerry and a practice squad guy are getting all the reps and we're getting low level production

Murray and Queen are elite level prospects and I'd be happy with either in the 1st (prefer Queen though)

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

And all this LB is unimportant talk is ridiculous. Look how good Bradham was in our SuperBowl run. He was huge

You guys say it doesn't matter until nate Gerry and a practice squad guy are getting all the reps and we're getting low level production

Murray and Queen are elite level prospects and I'd be happy with either in the 1st (prefer Queen though)

But you know in Schwartz system and Howie draft history- we dont draft LB in the first round, why beat your head against the wall- its 99.9 not going to happen. I do think the Eagles draft a LB but I think it maybe in the 3rd or 4th round. If the WR the Eagles wants are gone, I rather trade back and get more picks...there is a TON of talent to be had in rounds 2 through 4

 

[1thouwow]

im really liking the idea of Mims at 21 if Higgins is gone. maybe its just me but when i watch Mims i see Aj Green.

Higgins

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

Higgins

I want NO PARTS of that cant separate- refuse to do the combine Alshon clone

 

[Box Factory]

But you know in Schwartz system and Howie draft history- we dont draft LB in the first round, why beat your head against the wall- its 99.9 not going to happen. I do think the Eagles draft a LB but I think it maybe in the 3rd or 4th round. If the WR the Eagles wants are gone, I rather trade back and get more picks...there is a TON of talent to be had in rounds 2 through 4

I would be cool with trading back.

Agree on the talent in this being deep into the later rounds.


I think they need to come out of the 1st 4 rounds with atleast 2 WRs, a lb, and an interior O lineman at minimum. I'm sure they'll slip a DE in there somewhere too.

The draft is deep enough for them to load up if they play it right


I just really hope we don't a see a Clayton thorson type pick to fukk things up

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

I would be cool with trading back.

Agree on the talent in this being deep into the later rounds.


I think they need to come out of the 1st 4 rounds with atleast 2 WRs, a lb, and an interior O lineman at minimum. I'm sure they'll slip a DE in there somewhere too.

The draft is deep enough for them to load up if they play it right


I just really hope we don't a see a Clayton thorson type pick to fukk things up

They seem to be doing alot of homework on safety- an interesting FS prospect is the XFL safety from WV- Kenny Robinson who spoke to the Eagles ( i think he has 2 INT in 5 games and was productive at WV)- I know the Eagles spoke to Chinn- so I would be shocked if we dont come away with a safety in this draft

They can use a OG but they also need a bonified swing tackle...this is why trading back may make sense bc they need alot of picks

 

[WaddupDoe!]

Higgins

yes higgins whats your problem with him? ill take Higgins at 21 all day same with Mims.

its funny how everybody is on CeeDee Lamb but

Higgins at 6'4" 210lbs runs a 4.5 has the same short shuttle as Cedee Lamb and same 40 time is all the sudden slow?

 

[WaddupDoe!]

I want NO PARTS of that cant separate- refuse to do the combine Alshon clone

the top two WRs in the league hardly get this so called separation but still dominate(Hopkins & Micheal Thomas)

but people would love to have them im confused. look i know this team needs speed but first & foremost we need TALENT at WR & Higgins is going to be true #1 WR. ill bet on that.

 

[1thouwow]

I want NO PARTS of that cant separate- refuse to do the combine Alshon clone

yes higgins whats your problem with him? ill take Higgins at 21 all day same with Mims.

its funny how everybody is on CeeDee Lamb but

Higgins at 6'4" 210lbs runs a 4.5 has the same short shuttle as Cedee Lamb and same 40 time is all the sudden slow?

He doesn’t pass my eye test, straight up. I wouldnt mind him in the 2nd round tho. His hands are solid. He posted a workout on IG and his footwork looked skeptical