"I Know One Thing For Sure, Groh Gotta Go" **2020 Philadelphia Eagles Off-Season Thread**

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Getting a new medical staff again.... it's funny because we fired the staff we had during the superbowl run immediately after... and been injury ridden ever since

Also a reddit post going into detail about what happened before the original staff was neutered. It's reddit so take with a grain of salt, but still.

The sports science program did things such as:

  1. Monitor players' hydration levels daily, and even hold players out of practice to prevent injury if they were not hydrated enough

  2. Monitor players' levels of a bunch of different nutrients daily, and make personalized smoothies with the nutrients they were low in (this is what all the smoothie jokes are about)

  3. Monitor things like heart rate and breathing rate

  4. Monitor sleep

  5. Use GPS equipment to monitor how players moved and determine things like how much stress they were placing on certain muscles and joints

  6. Use all of this data to specifically tailor workouts and recovery plans for each player to prevent injury
This article from 2016 shows how they basically stopped doing all of this except for with the players that specifically asked to keep doing it.

Doug pays lip service to it in the article, but it seems obvious he didn't take it that seriously.

Jenkins said all the equipment is still available to players, but the program isn’t being stressed as much and some of the “tedious things that I don’t necessarily think the players liked” are gone. Those things are the daily breathing and hydration tests and questionnaires and sleep monitors. Jenkins said the team didn’t use GPS monitoring during the spring

Jenkins, who continued to take all of this stuff seriously, has played almost every single snap, including on special teams, for years now and has had zero serious injuries that I can remember.

Now to be fair, some of the players didn't like some of the elements of the program, including the sleep monitoring and hydration tests, but it's clear that all of that stuff worked, and the players should have at least been strongly encouraged to utilize the program for the benefit of the team and their own careers, but it seems that they really weren't.

Especially given how the last two years have gone, they could have said "hmm, maybe it's time we really re-emphasize the sports science program and make it more prominent," but they decided to scapegoat Huls instead and let him go.
 

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So who’s our OC.



Speaking of that OC opening, it looks like the Eagles might not hire one at all. The team has yet to officially confirm as much but they now have a passing game coordinator in Taylor and a running game coordinator in Jeff Stoutland. Are they really going to add an OC on top of that?
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Maybe it really is just going to be a collaborative team effort, but to me this just reads as Doug is the OC.

Not a fan of the idea right now. I feel like the passing game has kind of stagnated the last few years

Maybe it was more of a lack of having downfield threats than a coaching issue, but a new voice and set of eyes seems like a good idea to me


Also don't like how Duce is repeatedly passed over when we look within. I won't be shocked if he eventually leaves and has success again elsewhere
 

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After reading up on rich scangarello, I kinda fukk with this hire :leon:

Said his downfall at Denver was his play calling but his game planning was good. Plus drew lock did good with him and even had dude reciting Young Jeezy lyrics :russ:

But I still feel they didn't get any candidates they were serious about so they said "fukk it, were taking the 9ers approach"

And Dan's stanning of Carson Wentz nearly got him a job here too:mjlol:
 

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Yep, basically implementing the set up Shannahan & McVay have used, where rather than one OC they have passing/running game coordinators as well as other coaches who chime in on the gameplan (Scangarellos role)

Makes sense to have that kind of collaboration under you when you're a head coach who calls plays like Doug.
 

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Maybe it really is just going to be a collaborative team effort, but to me this just reads as Doug is the OC.

Not a fan of the idea right now. I feel like the passing game has kind of stagnated the last few years

Maybe it was more of a lack of having downfield threats than a coaching issue, but a new voice and set of eyes seems like a good idea to me


Also don't like how Duce is repeatedly passed over when we look within. I won't be shocked if he eventually leaves and has success again elsewhere
I think we spoke about this earlier of Groh as an internal hire put Duce at a disadvantage since we're all wanted an outside mind for OC.

I think for his coaching career to take that next level, he's gonna go outside of the eagles for his sake to get promoted
 

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Maybe it really is just going to be a collaborative team effort, but to me this just reads as Doug is the OC.

Not a fan of the idea right now. I feel like the passing game has kind of stagnated the last few years

Maybe it was more of a lack of having downfield threats than a coaching issue, but a new voice and set of eyes seems like a good idea to me


Also don't like how Duce is repeatedly passed over when we look within. I won't be shocked if he eventually leaves and has success again elsewhere
I think we spoke about this earlier of Groh as an internal hire put Duce at a disadvantage since we're all wanted an outside mind for OC.

I think for his coaching career to take that next level, he's gonna go outside of the eagles for his sake to get promoted

He got promoted to “assistant head coach” last off season.
 

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Wouldn't call it a full proper promotion. They gave him that title so other teams couldn't interview him for OC job after the SB. He got a pay raise tho :yeshrug:
He’s the second nikka in charge. There’s no OC, he’s higher than Jim Schwartz. Him taking the OC title only, is a demotion
 

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I like that they’ve brought in people from different backgrounds. And the set-up without an OC has worked well enough for the 49ers and Rams.

You have Pederson with the West Coast offense, Taylor as the bright young offensive mind (at least, the Eagles see him as such), Breiner with experience in the college-style spread offense, and Scangarello as a Shanahan disciple who also brings a lot of coaching experience.

It’s not the Urban/Kafka/LaFleur splash signing we were all hoping for, but at least there’s a clear focus on revamping the passing game. Reminds me of when Reich and DeFilippo were brought on in 2016. They weren’t huge names at the time, but they became extremely important to what was an elite coaching staff in 2017. Hopefully the same bodes true for this new group.

Now it’s just a matter of synthesizing all the new faces and backgrounds, and bringing on a new wide receivers’ coach to replace Walch, and the offensive coaching staff will be complete. I’m intrigued, can’t wait to see how it’ll all play out in September 2020. :ehh:
 
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