i just started listening to MF DOOM...never knew this dude was this great

[DrHackenbush]

never listened to doom that much gonna check out his shyt but i remember this one line

Borderline schizo
sorta fine t*ts though

 

[PlayerNinety_Nine]

Grimm has one of the illest stories in hip hop history. It makes no sense.Two attempts on his life. A drug lord with a love for rapping and comic books. Dude has won awards for his comic books/graphic novels. He was still running a drug operation from his fukking wheelchair after the second attempt on his life put him in a coma and left him paralyzed. Doom recorded his debut album in Grimm's basement. They lived together for a minute. The story is movie-worthy, it's as improbable a narrative as there is.

Some excerpts from interviews, articles, and his wikipedia:

Percy Carey grew up in the Upper West Side section of Manhattan. His neighbor, Morgan Freeman, helped arrange for him to be cast as a child actor on Sesame Street, he first appeared in Season 7, Episode 0806. He appeared on the show from Age 5 to around Age 9 "One episode, I lost my tooth, and me and Big Bird had to go through Sesame Street and try to find it," Carey remembers. The idea for that episode came about after Carey told Jim Henson about a dream he'd had the night before.


During his teenage years Grimm became involved with the hip hop community and decided that he wanted to be an MC at the age of 14. His mother supported this dream and bought him turntables and a microphone. Carey was expelled from Park West High School in Hell's Kitchen after beating up the school's Dean over owed drug money.

In the early nineties Carey moved to California where he worked as a ghostwriter for a number of artists. Amongst these artists was Dr. Dre, who had him ghostwrite for his now-classic album The Chronic

Out on bail and awaiting trial for narcotics and weapons charges, Carey made a risky move in early 2000. Lacking a driver's license, he bought a fake one and used it to board a plane to Los Angeles. There, he met Dumile. They came to negotiate with executives from Readyrock Records, who planned to release MF Doom's solo debut, Operation: Doomsday, and K.M.D.'s second and final album, Bl_ck B_st_rds. Carey contributed financially to and is credited as an executive producer on both albums.

Carey hadn't seen his friend in a while, as Dumile had moved to suburban Atlanta with his wife and their young son, Daniel Jr.—Carey's godson. After the meeting, the two men revived their bond and, stepping into a record studio, quickly recorded hours of songs, one of which Carey would use for Grimm's own The Downfall of Ibliys: A Ghetto Opera, which was dedicated to stepbrother–shooting victim Jansen Smalls. "I expected me and Doom to make good music and become legends," Carey remembers of the session.

In 1993 MF Grimm had recorded an album's worth of material that was to serve as his debut album. After being shot and hospitalized, a lot of the material was stolen or lost, as it wasn't expected that he would survive his coma. After he woke up from the coma Grimm was able to retrieve some of the lost records and some of this material went on to be released later as singles, and later formed the 2005 compilation album Scars & Memories.

In 2001 MF Grimm recorded his debut album, The Downfall of Ibliys: A Ghetto Opera while on bail after his prison sentencing. The entire album was recorded during a twenty four hour period, and featured production and appearances from Count Bass D and MF DOOM. The album was released on Grimm's Day By Day Entertainment label, although he did not hear the album until after his release from prison several years later.

"I wronged a lot of people, but it's balanced out," he says. "And that's why I can live with myself in this chair."

I really needs a movie on the whole CM Fam/Monster island/DOOM/GRIMM story.

Mentioned it on here before, but fans of DOOM/Grimm and pretty much 90's hip-hop in general should give this a read. The book is phenomenal and Grimm's life story is

 

[mbewane]

Doom is dope. Like someone said, no problem discovering him on the late because his musis is not at all influenced by trends.

As a non-American I miss a lot of his slang/references, but even with that he's still a beast.

 

[BigF]

enough with the guns already, they all toys and lames
the joy's in the aim
he asked him hows ya poison game
do you bust your crossbow, also moreso
accurate body blows to torso
thought so
these flows you won't find in no how-to


fukking ridiculous.

My best line from that track is in the 1st few bars:

'Back from the future, it'll make you more soberer....and brought back a long list of fakers who crossed over'

 

[Supa]

Doom is dope. Like someone said, no problem discovering him on the late because his musis is not at all influenced by trends.

As a non-American I miss a lot of his slang/references, but even with that he's still a beast.

Just use google. I was going to post some lyrics and just found these:

Spat what he knew, energy for true
To all fake rappers, twenty-three skidoo

"23 skidoo," first attested in 1906, combines two earlier expressions, "twenty-three" (1899)[2] and "skidoo" (1901), both of which, independently and separately, referred to leaving, being kicked out, or the end of something. "23 skidoo" quickly became a popular catch-phrase after its first appearance in early 1906.

A postcard from 1905; the Flatiron Building in the background shows that 23rd Street is the location. This is the most widely known explanation for the phrase "23 skidoo".

From the same verse:
They came to ask him for, at least, some new tracks
But only got confronted by the beast with two backs

Making the beast with two backs is a euphemistic metaphor for two persons engaged in sexual intercourse. It refers to the situation in which a couple – in the missionary position or standing – cling to each other as if a single creature, with their backs to the outside.

In English, the expression dates back to at least William Shakespeare's Othello (Act 1, Scene 1, ll. 126-127):[1]

I am one, sir, that comes to tell you your daughter and the Moor are now making the beast with two backs.

1906 slang and Shakespeare? DOOM just throws out random bits of info/trivia like it's normal.

 

[Monoblock]

Don't let the drama getcha
In the only genre of music where the fans shoot the messenger
bytch nikkas talk behind your back like a catcher
Either M-Y-O-B or B-Y-O stretcher
In that order, man, woman, son, daughter
The beat sound like he underwater, make it fun to slaughter
Even if you hear some wack shyt you never give a chance
Some shyt sound like all you could do off it is river-dance

It's like a barbecue all swine cookout
And fukk up they plans like a blind man lookout

Remember me God, clean timbs with emery board?
He only came to save the game like a memory card
Ooh shrewd, a lot of crews is too rude
And it's way too many let's not and say we do dudes
He said 24-7 I be on call
He use his vacation days to watch Babylon fall
Numbskulls.. get to stepping they dumb dull
And how he grip the mic is like the weapon from Krull

I immediately got that line. That was one of my favorite movies back in the day growing up and one of the dopest weapons in cinematic history along with that frisbee blade from Predator 2.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

the whole doom era with grimm and czars were good years

 

[SwagmundFreud]

Didn't DOOM and Grimm had beef for a short time?

 

[Zero]

Didn't DOOM and Grimm had beef for a short time?

One of the most trying times in hiphop for me

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

Tier 1: Madvillain, Operation Dooomsday
Tier 2: King Geedorah, Vaudeville Villain
Tier 3: Mm Food

Then the rest. Diminishing returns after that point IMO

MM Food was classic... tier 3 should be that Born Like This garbage

 

[Corndog]

MM Food was classic... tier 3 should be that Born Like This garbage

Sir you misunderstand me. Every record I listed is arguably a classic, best believe I'm not shytting on MM Food.
I just think its not quite on the level of his earlier joints.

Tiers 4-whatever include Born Like This, Dangerdoom (), the 2nd Viktor Vaughn, etc.
All lesser projects and not worth the time of someone just getting up on DOOM in my opinion

 

[Sackballions]

Lookin' at my Seiko it's about to be Waco, and it won't be televised you can make sho'

Turn Jakes to bagels

Money over snake hoes

I think he said turn jake to bacos either way its hot

 

[Checkgamematch]

Rhinestone Cowboy >>>>

 

[Majestyx]

Grimm has one of the illest stories in hip hop history. It makes no sense.Two attempts on his life. A drug lord with a love for rapping and comic books. Dude has won awards for his comic books/graphic novels. He was still running a drug operation from his fukking wheelchair after the second attempt on his life put him in a coma and left him paralyzed. Doom recorded his debut album in Grimm's basement. They lived together for a minute. The story is movie-worthy, it's as improbable a narrative as there is.

Some excerpts from interviews, articles, and his wikipedia:

Percy Carey grew up in the Upper West Side section of Manhattan. His neighbor, Morgan Freeman, helped arrange for him to be cast as a child actor on Sesame Street, he first appeared in Season 7, Episode 0806. He appeared on the show from Age 5 to around Age 9 "One episode, I lost my tooth, and me and Big Bird had to go through Sesame Street and try to find it," Carey remembers. The idea for that episode came about after Carey told Jim Henson about a dream he'd had the night before.


During his teenage years Grimm became involved with the hip hop community and decided that he wanted to be an MC at the age of 14. His mother supported this dream and bought him turntables and a microphone. Carey was expelled from Park West High School in Hell's Kitchen after beating up the school's Dean over owed drug money.

In the early nineties Carey moved to California where he worked as a ghostwriter for a number of artists. Amongst these artists was Dr. Dre, who had him ghostwrite for his now-classic album The Chronic

Out on bail and awaiting trial for narcotics and weapons charges, Carey made a risky move in early 2000. Lacking a driver's license, he bought a fake one and used it to board a plane to Los Angeles. There, he met Dumile. They came to negotiate with executives from Readyrock Records, who planned to release MF Doom's solo debut, Operation: Doomsday, and K.M.D.'s second and final album, Bl_ck B_st_rds. Carey contributed financially to and is credited as an executive producer on both albums.

Carey hadn't seen his friend in a while, as Dumile had moved to suburban Atlanta with his wife and their young son, Daniel Jr.—Carey's godson. After the meeting, the two men revived their bond and, stepping into a record studio, quickly recorded hours of songs, one of which Carey would use for Grimm's own The Downfall of Ibliys: A Ghetto Opera, which was dedicated to stepbrother–shooting victim Jansen Smalls. "I expected me and Doom to make good music and become legends," Carey remembers of the session.

In 1993 MF Grimm had recorded an album's worth of material that was to serve as his debut album. After being shot and hospitalized, a lot of the material was stolen or lost, as it wasn't expected that he would survive his coma. After he woke up from the coma Grimm was able to retrieve some of the lost records and some of this material went on to be released later as singles, and later formed the 2005 compilation album Scars & Memories.

In 2001 MF Grimm recorded his debut album, The Downfall of Ibliys: A Ghetto Opera while on bail after his prison sentencing. The entire album was recorded during a twenty four hour period, and featured production and appearances from Count Bass D and MF DOOM. The album was released on Grimm's Day By Day Entertainment label, although he did not hear the album until after his release from prison several years later.

"I wronged a lot of people, but it's balanced out," he says. "And that's why I can live with myself in this chair."

add to that, Grimm is cool as shyt. Met him at comic con and chopped with him for a good half hour, dude pulled out american hunger cd, signed it and gave it to me and i wasnt even on no stan/fan boy shyt.

 

[Sackballions]

Don't let the drama getcha
In the only genre of music where the fans shoot the messenger
bytch nikkas talk behind your back like a catcher
Either M-Y-O-B or B-Y-O stretcher
In that order, man, woman, son, daughter
The beat sound like he underwater, make it fun to slaughter
Even if you hear some wack shyt you never give a chance
Some shyt sound like all you could do off it is river-dance

It's like a barbecue all swine cookout
And fukk up they plans like a blind man lookout

Remember me God, clean timbs with emery board?
He only came to save the game like a memory card
Ooh shrewd, a lot of crews is too rude
And it's way too many let's not and say we do dudes
He said 24-7 I be on call
He use his vacation days to watch Babylon fall
Numbskulls.. get to stepping they dumb dull
And how he grip the mic is like the weapon from Krull

They outta place, beats sound like outter space, with no time to waste, he was out, without a trace