I hope it's common knowledge that Fedor was the GOAT MMA fighter

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^this I aint one of those cats that drinks that ufc coolaid or gets into the debate on which org was better.But lets live in reality, anderson silva's 6 year reign in the ufc surpasses fedor's decade easily.

There is a higher probability that there is greater skill/talent -210lbs than +210 thats just common sense. ppl like to point to the fact that fedor was an undersized HW like that was a hindrance, all that meant to me was he had a lower centre of gravity & his opponents were big lumbering with less skill (due to not having training partners as big) Hong man choi, semmy smchett, tim sylvia.. And what about the fights against lhw/mws like randleman, arona, sobral or lindland that were dressed up as HW fights.

What became of all those asians he beat again? thats what I thought
 

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^this I aint one of those cats that drinks that ufc coolaid or gets into the debate on which org was better.But lets live in reality, anderson silva's 6 year reign in the ufc surpasses fedor's decade easily.

There is a higher probability that there is greater skill/talent -210lbs than +210 thats just common sense. ppl like to point to the fact that fedor was an undersized HW like that was a hindrance, all that meant to me was he had a lower centre of gravity & his opponents were big lumbering with less skill (due to not having training partners as big) Hong man choi, semmy smchett, tim sylvia.. And what about the fights against lhw/mws like randleman, arona, sobral or lindland that were dressed up as HW fights.

What became of all those asians he beat again? thats what I thought

to be fair, anderson is fighting in a weak ass division. there's no one of real significance outside of dan henderson and vitor belfort (who i always thought was overrated anyway).

GSP has the best track record against quality opponents.. but the way silva finishes people is just :mindblown:

fedor has a good argument though.. you can't really clown on that
 

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to be fair, anderson is fighting in a weak ass division. there's no one of real significance outside of dan henderson and vitor belfort (who i always thought was overrated anyway).

GSP has the best track record against quality opponents.. but the way silva finishes people is just :mindblown:

fedor has a good argument though.. you can't really clown on that

:childplease:

You mean the same one dimensional ass fighters hes been facing all these years? Shields,Hardy,Alves,Koscheck? Carlos Condit was his toughest fight since he fought BJ Penn the 1st time

Hendo, Belfort, Sonnen, Okami even Rich Franklin (at the time he beat him) are much better opponents then GSP has faced.....and Anderson FINISHED them all.

GSP is #3 in the GOAT ranks behind Fedor but Bones is creeping slowly...
 

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matt hughes, bj penn, sean sherk, koschek, jon fitch, jake shields, condit

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hendo, belfort, sonnen (forgot the obvious), okami and franklin



and i aint denying that silva is in contention, if not already the all time GOAT.. and i already acknowledged his superior finishing style.

but if we're talking about competition, GSP > Silva's. not even a fukkin question.

EDIT: i'll go into detail if needed, but i really shouldn't have to
 

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matt hughes, bj penn, sean sherk, koschek, jon fitch, jake shields, condit

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hendo, belfort, sonnen (forgot the obvious), okami and franklin



and i aint denying that silva is in contention, if not already the all time GOAT.. and i already acknowledged his superior finishing style.

but if we're talking about competition, GSP > Silva's. not even a fukkin question.

EDIT: i'll go into detail if needed, but i really shouldn't have to

GSP did face better competition but Silvas the better Fighter imo cant be wrong picking either.
 

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Who did Fedor beat besides big Nog that we would consider a top fighter? He feasted on Japanese cans and freak show fights.

ricardo arona, heath herring, noguiera, crocop.

noguiera and crocop especially were huge names, for good reason, back in the day. and like silva.. it's pretty much the way he won against his opponents that made him so damn impressive

looking in retrospect i can see why Fedor's resume isn't as impressive as it should be.. but to those who actually watched during Fedors era.. you would understand a little bit more. his wins against nog and crocop were incredible.. and the way he destroyed heath herring.. survived the randleman suplex, etc..
 

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ricardo arona, heath herring, noguiera, crocop.

noguiera and crocop especially were huge names, for good reason, back in the day. and like silva.. it's pretty much the way he won against his opponents that made him so damn impressive

looking in retrospect i can see why Fedor's resume isn't as impressive as it should be.. but to those who actually watched during Fedors era.. you would understand a little bit more. his wins against nog and crocop were incredible.. and the way he destroyed heath herring.. survived the randleman suplex, etc..

Heath Herring :comeon:

CroCop turned out to be nothing but another dude who looked great when he feasted on Japanese cans. UFC exposed that dude for the fraud he was. Arona was a LHW fighting a HW.

Fedor knew what he was doing by avoiding the UFC. :smugfavre:
 

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Wishes I could still neg, Sliva is clearly the Goat, if you say otherwise you are clearly a racist....Point blank period
 

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Heath Herring :comeon:

CroCop turned out to be nothing but another dude who looked great when he feasted on Japanese cans. UFC exposed that dude for the fraud he was. Arona was a LHW fighting a HW.

Fedor knew what he was doing by avoiding the UFC. :smugfavre:

ok i'll take that.. but back then herring was actually a solid HW believe it or not. we're only allowed to say that bout crocop and noguera after he got whooped by fedor. BEFORE that, ain't no one was saying that shyt bout crocop. no one.

and the HW division was never that deep to begin with.. even now. so fedor was the undisputed at that time.. which coincides with alot of people with the GOAT. i'm not saying he is, because i don't personally don't think so, but there was legit reason for people thinking he was, back in the day at least
 

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matt hughes, bj penn, sean sherk, koschek, jon fitch, jake shields, condit

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hendo, belfort, sonnen (forgot the obvious), okami and franklin



and i aint denying that silva is in contention, if not already the all time GOAT.. and i already acknowledged his superior finishing style.

but if we're talking about competition, GSP > Silva's. not even a fukkin question.

EDIT: i'll go into detail if needed, but i really shouldn't have to

Dan Henderson is the greatest american fighter in MMA history and has a better resume then everyone you named who has fought GSP

Beating up BJ Penn at 170 is not impressive to me especially with a 20lb weight advantage:yeshrug:

Hendo>Hughes

Sonnen>Kosheck

Okami>Fitch

Belfort=Shields

And this is not even counting Andersons wins against then UNDEFEATED ranked #1 WW at the time in Sakarai and his top 10 ranked win over LHW Forrest Griffin (Who had JUST lost his belt)

Silva has taken out ranked opponents in 3 seperate weight classes while GSP hasnt fought outside of 170 ever

LOL@ competition, GSP > Silva's. not even a fukkin question.

Stop it:shaq2:
 

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For now, Andersons the GOAT, he makes shyt look way too easy. Bones if he carries on the way he does and then goes to Heavy and dominates, will most likely go down as the greatest MMA fighter ever.
 
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