I gotta get at Future (This gon make em mad af)

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I disagree and agree.

He's not garbage and he's not on because of Ciara. He actually does make good party music. It's undeniable. Whether you like that music or not is entirely up to you.

:comeon:

You know for a fact that Ciara has a huge impact on Future's popularity. fukk the pretenses.

Does Future make good party music? That's debatable. On one hand, I agree. If we look at good party music as whatever gets people moving at a point in time, then yes. Future does make good party music. If we look at good party music as something soulful that lasts long after it was made (e.g. Big Pimpin, lots of Timbaland shyt), then no. Future's stuff is straight garbage.

With that said I am not listening to 10 future songs in a row nor would I want to ever. I was at a show Monday night and the DJ played 3 Future songs in a row and the crowd clearly wanted him to switch it up. I think after a while you have to switch it up, with any trap beats/trap music. Not just his.

Of course they did. shyt's boring.

You can play 10 Jay-Z songs in a row and few would care.

There are quite a few people who find Nas boring (which I never got) and he isn't a super charismatic person. Have you seen his interviews? He comes off really introverted. When I think of charismatic rappers I think of guys like Snoop and Biggie and Pac. Nas' name doesn't really come into my mind when I think of rappers that have the most charisma.

Nas is more charismatic in his interviews than Future if you really wanna go there. This idea of Nas being a quiet herb is hilarious. I wonder if it's part of Duckworth's marketing machine to position his boring ass next to Nas as a way of excusing Duckworth into the game.

Besides, charisma is not loud, jump and down. It's about energy. Passion. There's so much energy in a great Nas song. Just like there's tons of energy in a Rakim track. It's a different kind of energy. It's mysterious and thoughtful energy.

That's why you'll see DMX go apeshyt reciting Rakim lines, even though Ra never spit "Microphone Fiend" that 'loud'. Microphone Fiend has a ton of energy. Rakim can move boulders with his slow flow.

Future is slow, passionless and says nothing interesting. Zero charisma.



"I feel great. blessed. thank you." :russell:

"I'm in the UK right now. UK vibes. Priceless."

Are y'all kidding me right now? Name one thing interesting about any of those statements, since we already know dude's delivery is dull as fukk.

then he tries to get funny with his Monster snarl. Trying too hard, B. You're lightweight.

:camby: outta here
 

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:martin: Man just cause you're wrong doesn't mean you need to be in denial and backtrack.

You went from "practically the same", to

"same musical approach" which is still false. All three of those tracks were by different producers

If you really want to argue "same musical approach" then you'd have to get at any golden age era artist

Just because future has an overarching cohesive sound doesnt mean he makes the same song every time.

You wouldn't say that about wu would you? Yeah Return to the 36 chambers has a cohesive sound, in that the songs give a similar vibe.

And expanding further upon that, return to the 36 chambers fits under the umbrella of the wu/rza sound.

Just be straight up, breh, you don't like future. You don't have to be saying lies to prove anything.

Just stop! fukk... the lengths y'all will go to to defend basura is incredible. This is precisely why the genre is straight garbage now.

nikka... trap is a very narrow sound. It doesn't matter how many nikkas are doing it. You know this. That's why you came with the disclaimer "they may have comparable drums/tempo".

Of course they do. That's the fukking point. Same skeletal beat, same tempo, same mumble flow, same atmosphere. It's generic.

Pick any good Wu album. Each song will have totally different drum patterns, topics, rhymes, flows.... even when they're chasing the same overall vibe.
 

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Future sounds like drinking lean feels.

Only reason he's liked.

If dudes just kept it this real, no one would have a problem.

Sure, I think drinking lean is fukking stupid. But hey, people will do what they wanna do.

Just don't come at me like "you don't get it" "you behind the times" "you hata".

fukk outta here. This shyt is lowest-common-denominator music. There's nothing inspiring going on here. It's really easy to understand, might work for a disposable moment or two, but ultimately it's easy to throw away.
 

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Just stop! fukk... the lengths y'all will go to to defend basura is incredible. This is precisely why the genre is straight garbage now.

nikka... trap is a very narrow sound. It doesn't matter how many nikkas are doing it. You know this. That's why you came with the disclaimer "they may have comparable drums/tempo".

Of course they do. That's the fukking point. Same skeletal beat, same tempo, same mumble flow, same atmosphere. It's generic.

Pick any good Wu album. Each song will have totally different drum patterns, topics, rhymes, flows.... even when they're chasing the same overall vibe.

Youre out here acting like boom bap didnt have similar patterns, FORGETTING THE FACT that a lot of boom bap used the exact same drum breaks. Same atmosphere is a lie. Similar flows yeah, usually rappers will do that. Similar beats yep, thats what happens within the confines of a genre.
 

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Soon as this dude said Future is on cuz of Ciara the whole post failed and I don't fukk w Future like that....Good job OP
 

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Youre out here acting like boom bap didnt have similar patterns, FORGETTING THE FACT that a lot of boom bap used the exact same drum breaks. Same atmosphere is a lie. Similar flows yeah, usually rappers will do that. Similar beats yep, thats what happens within the confines of a genre.

:russell:

the gymnastics are still crazy. So when they used the same drum breaks, did they use the same flow, rap about the same shyt and use the same tempo? There's more variation in Cuban Linx alone than in Future's entire discog.

You're trying too hard, dude.
 

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:russell:

the gymnastics are still crazy. So when they used the same drum breaks, did they use the same flow, rap about the same shyt and use the same tempo? There's more variation in Cuban Linx alone than in Future's entire discog.

You're trying too hard, dude.

Now youre flipping the script on me when youre the one doing gymnastics, backtracking and all.

I'm not future doesnt consistently rap about the same shyt, Im saying youre shytting on him for the same stuff countless artists have done.
 
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