i got Breaking Bad boxset for Christmas. 2 seasons in, some thoughts.

[hex]

so far , this show is nowhere near The Wire, and is blashphemy for anyone to say so. granted i am two seasons in, and from metacritic scores, the show improves every season.

walter is not a likeable character. in spite of their crap, u still messed with Tony Soprano, Stringer, Avon, Marlo. you cannot like this goofy weirdo old head Walter. no swag, nothing.

Walters wife is a horrible written character. anybody who takes tv or film seriously know that the archetype of annoying highstrung wife is a horrible cliche at this point. I mean, there was no such character in The Wire who wasnt complex and nuanced.

the dude that plays Jesse deserves his Emmys. he is the most impressive so far.

Jesses drug girlfriend that had an overdose. they messed up there, they shpuld have had her character carry on like Adriana in The Sopranos. she was just coming outta her shell, and then in a cliched way had an overdose.

walters brother in law, the cop, is pure comedy, probably my favorite character.

oh yeah, his sister in law, just like his wife, a horiible written character. just another uptight wife.

a great and funny scene is wher at the end of one episode in season 2, they have old azz Walter eye fight some big azz mexican while they played TV On The Radio's DLZ. i wont lie it was a bad azz moment, but kinda silly since this old dude in real life would have been chin checked.

anyway, at this moment in time, i cannot put Breaking Bad ahead of The Wire, The Sopranos or Mad Men. its still a good show. I think it deserves its props, but season one was a 3.5 mic season, and season 2 was a 4. 25 mic season, a big improvement from the first, and i am expecting it to continue to improve. but on the eveidence so far, it is just a really interesting show. not close to GOAT status.

A few things....

1. Whether or not you like Walt is

Can't really comment on that because it's your opinion. Ironically if you dislike him now I think you'll love him later on because the point of the show is to turn this no swag/square/loser into a villain.

2. There is a "high strung wife archetype/trope" because it's realistic. It exists because it obviously works. She's pregnant, her son has CP, they're broke as a family, her husband has cancer and disappears at all hours of the day and night with no explanation. So I dunno what kinda reaction you'd expect from her.

Although it's kinda hard to judge her two seasons in, unlike any of the other shows you named the characters on this show change. That's the entire point of the show.

3. Jane was not a main character. She was basically a rung on the ladder of Walt's villainy. He killed Krazy 8 because he would've killed Walt and his fam....he let Jane die because she was gonna snitch. Over the course of the series Walt kills more and more people and it becomes harder to justify why he does it.

4. As far as the parking lot scene, ok they whup Walt's ass. He goes into business with Gus the next ep, and does the $1.2 mill deal. Walt would not let the shyt slide and both of those guys would be dead. You can't be an out-of-towner beating up random people.

I'm interested to see your opinion as the show goes on but a few things I think you're coming at it from the wrong angle. Like the Jane shyt for example.

Fred.

 

[Roberto Dinero]

A few things....

1. Whether or not you like Walt is

Can't really comment on that because it's your opinion. Ironically if you dislike him now I think you'll love him later on because the point of the show is to turn this no swag/square/loser into a villain.

2. There is a "high strung wife archetype/trope" because it's realistic. It exists because it obviously works. She's pregnant, her son has CP, they're broke as a family, her husband has cancer and disappears at all hours of the day and night with no explanation. So I dunno what kinda reaction you'd expect from her.

Although it's kinda hard to judge her two seasons in, unlike any of the other shows you named the characters on this show change. That's the entire point of the show.

3. Jane was not a main character. She was basically a rung on the ladder of Walt's villainy. He killed Krazy 8 because he would've killed Walt and his fam....he let Jane die because she was gonna snitch. Over the course of the series Walt kills more and more people and it becomes harder to justify why he does it.

4. As far as the parking lot scene, ok they whup Walt's ass. He goes into business with Gus the next ep, and does the $1.2 mill deal. Walt would not let the shyt slide and both of those guys would be dead. You can't be an out-of-towner beating up random people.

I'm interested to see your opinion as the show goes on but a few things I think you're coming at it from the wrong angle. Like the Jane shyt for example.

Fred.

Jane had to go for the show to go on. She was not a down chick like Adrianna that knew the stakes and chose to still be involved with a guy like Christopher. Jane wouldn't have worked well in that role as the down chick that holds Jesse down no matter what.

She was also trying to blackmail Walt and leave town with the money he and Jesse had made together. She wanted to leave ABQ and go somewhere else. If they had kept her on she would have been a liability to the business. A young ex fiend with a lot of money all of a sudden. If they had stayed together in town while Jesse and Walt kept running their meth business thing she would probably run her mouth a lot about it.

 

[bl2k8]

Your main problem is you heard people comparing it to the Wire. The Wire is just a better show, it's on a different level.

BB is by far the best show on TV right now though.

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

im in the middle of season 2 and love this show. hank (walter's brother in law) and the chemistry between jesse and walter is hilarious.

 

[hex]

im in the middle of season 2 and love this show. hank (walter's brother in law) and the chemistry between jesse and walter is hilarious.

Fred.

 

[hex]

Jane had to go for the show to go on. She was not a down chick like Adrianna that knew the stakes and chose to still be involved with a guy like Christopher. Jane wouldn't have worked well in that role as the down chick that holds Jesse down no matter what.

She was also trying to blackmail Walt and leave town with the money he and Jesse had made together. She wanted to leave ABQ and go somewhere else. If they had kept her on she would have been a liability to the business. A young ex fiend with a lot of money all of a sudden. If they had stayed together in town while Jesse and Walt kept running their meth business thing she would probably run her mouth a lot about it.

Yeah that bytch was dead regardless so I don't get the Adrianna comparison. The only thing they have in common is wanting to snitch, and Adrianna at least lasted 5 seasons before that. Jane was a scheming bytch right out the gate. As soon as she heard "he owes me $480,000" she started talking about snitching.

Fred.

 

[Roberto Dinero]

Yeah that bytch was dead regardless so I don't get the Adrianna comparison. The only thing they have in common is wanting to snitch, and Adrianna at least lasted 5 seasons before that. Jane was a scheming bytch right out the gate. As soon as she heard "he owes me $480,000" she started talking about snitching.

Fred.

Yeah, definitely. No reason to keep that stupid b!tch around.

 

[Mike Otherz]

props to breaking bad for putting me on to this song.

 

[AkaDemiK]

1. America A Horse With No Name - YouTube

props to breaking bad for putting me on to this song.

The show picks some of the dopest records. Wait till you hear the Spanish song they played while jesse and mike drive around in season 4. It was my fav. song off the fifa 10 soundtrack and it blew my mind that the BB producers used it.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiQ7S38nKog"]Ana Tijoux - 1977 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Roberto Dinero]

1. America A Horse With No Name - YouTube

props to breaking bad for putting me on to this song.

I had heard it before but I never remembered what it was called till I saw that episode.

 

[GoldenGlove]

skip seasons 1-3. mostly

season 4 and 5 are great though, but not GOAT status whatsoever. Gus, Mike, and Hank are by far the only interesting characters.

 

[hex]

I remember in a "Wire" thread people were saying skip season 2 and/or 3. Which is bad enough.

Spoilers for seasons 1-3....

Spoiler

But if you skip seasons 1-3 of this show you literally miss the entire point of the series....no Krazy 8, no Tuco, no knowledge of Grey Matter, no Jane, no intro to Mike, Gus, the cartel, the cousins or the superlab, no Combo dying, no Gale dying, no knowledge of why Gus/Walt are beefing, no Ted Beneke....and most importantly zero build up or insight into why Walt and Jesse are who they are.

It's like people miss the entire point of this show.

Fred.

 

[Golayitdown]

I remember in a "Wire" thread people were saying skip season 2 and/or 3. Which is bad enough.

Spoilers for seasons 1-3....

Spoiler

But if you skip seasons 1-3 of this show you literally miss the entire point of the series....no Krazy 8, no Tuco, no knowledge of Grey Matter, no Jane, no intro to Mike, Gus, the cartel, the cousins or the superlab, no Combo dying, no Gale dying, no knowledge of why Gus/Walt are beefing, no Ted Beneke....and most importantly zero build up or insight into why Walt and Jesse are who they are.

It's like people miss the entire point of this show.

Fred.

Definitely a building blocks type of show. Yeah, you can skip parts and get into it later, but it really becomes a typical show on tv without the proper build up.

 

[Uptown WaYo87]

1. America A Horse With No Name - YouTube

props to breaking bad for putting me on to this song.

I had heard it before but I never remembered what it was called till I saw that episode.

GTA SAN ANDREAS

 

[Roberto Dinero]

GTA SAN ANDREAS

It was in San Andreas? That's where I must have heard it. I might have heard it at my parents house growing up as well tho. They were into some of the music from that time.