I find it hard to believe that there is this little talent in the NBA/college basketball

[Colin X]

College basketball has done more damage than AAU ever could imo

 

[Pimp]

It's because Steph Curry is hurting the game

 

[WuDatWuDat]

What league are you watching?

Wiggins, Parker, Gordon, (Embiid injured), Smart, Randle, Stauskas, Payton, Lavine, Warren, Nurkic, Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, Early, Hairston, Capela, Grant, and Clarkson all have pretty solid roles on teams already.

I don't know what you're expecting. Half of each draft class to be superstars in their 2nd year?

 

[Darealtwo1]

nikka what dude there are only 450 jobs available...no more no less.

When the draft comes, around 420 jobs are taken already. Do the math.

There is nothing wrong with the talent.

 

[RammerJammer]

I really don't agree with this. I think the overall level of college play over the years has DRASTICALLY improved everywhere - meaning its just harder for guys to stand out and even harder for scouts to make the right call. You got mid-majors holding talent and regular scaring the fukk out of the big programs. The rules (35 second shotclock, gimmick defense) still suck

Actually they cut the shotclock to 30 seconds this year (should be 24 but baby steps) so the scoring has increased a bit

 

[Ineedmoney504]

College basketball has fallen off dramatically. It's very hard to watch now. If a player has elite talent he will be gone after one year. Also, the best athletes are in the South and a lot of them choose to play football.

The player with the highest ceiling hasn't been able to play a game, the draft would look a lot different if Embiid were out there playing.


And you missed a good deal of guys that are contributing like Jokic, Hood, Clarkson, Capella and Harris.

Hand egg wins again

 

[Professor Emeritus]

but how could it (in terms of talent) have fallen off so bad? Unless the judgment of highschool prospects has been made more lenient...there is no shortage of hyped up players heading to college. Are the potential athletes choosing football instead or some shyt?

It's just mind boggling that the incoming NBA talent has been so bad the last few years.

Not saying everyone has to be a star, but even there is even a lack of players with career role player potential. I'm probably speaking too soon

The big problem is that NBA and college basketball have become FAR more intellectual recently than they were in previous decades. Offenses and defenses both are getting a lot more complicated, and it takes a lot more time for new guys to adjust. So aside from the very top talent, players who have spent a few years in the NBA have a bigger advantage than ever before, and a lot of really talented freshmen in college are going to get exposed by players who know the system.

 

[FaTaL]

The big problem is that NBA and college basketball have become FAR more intellectual recently than they were in previous decades. Offenses and defenses both are getting a lot more complicated, and it takes a lot more time for new guys to adjust. So aside from the very top talent, players who have spent a few years in the NBA have a bigger advantage than ever before, and a lot of really talented freshmen in college are going to get exposed by players who know the system.

the system in college today is a game of keep away

who can drain the clock the most to limit the amount of possessions

how can anybody watch this crap?

 

[BXKingPin82]

Some of these muthafukkas would really benefit from staying in college a lil longer
But fukk college tho lol
I just cant cant believe alotta these southern kids parents failing their asses by beatin them over the head with that football shyt
Playing the game of life ALL wrong

 

[Ohene]

What league are you watching?

Wiggins, Parker, Gordon, (Embiid injured), Smart, Randle, Stauskas, Payton, Lavine, Warren, Nurkic, Gary Harris, Rodney Hood, Early, Hairston, Capela, Grant, and Clarkson all have pretty solid roles on teams already.

I don't know what you're expecting. Half of each draft class to be superstars in their 2nd year?

these dudes have been trash or benchwarmers. not sure why theyre being mentioned

 

[thewiz]

I completely forgot Dante exum existed til I saw this thread

 

[tremonthustler1]

Can't fully blame college for dumb ass players not learning shyt and coaches not being able to teach.

 

[labelplant]

It's fine. The last couple draft classes are taking longer to adjust on the defensive end because NBA D is more complex than ever and a lot of college teams play zones and other gimmick D. And than on the offensive end it's more about the skilled part of the game (shooting, passing) than it was in 2004. Teams didn't try to set up open 3s and shots as much. It was more put your most talented player in a pick n roll or an Iso or post him up. So someone who was really big and talented like amare (or Bron, but that's diff) could pretty much be effective straight out of high school. Now it's taking these guys a few years to learn the game.

As far as draft scouting, i would actually say teams are getting Better with identifying talent because analytics has really added another effective tool for these scouts and GMs.
As for IT4, he is 5'9, which is onviously a concern and while he was a good player in college he wasn't like an all american 1st team or something. So being drafted in the 2nd round isn't a surprise. He is more the exception to the rule if anything. Although I have long Said that size is overrated when scouting NBA prospects. If someone can play, they can play.

 

[Loose]

nikka pleas stop talking basketball

 

[954UAlreadyknow]

Thread is terrible