I finally watched the Dark Knight Rises

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I'm sure this has been said before but the fight scenes were awful in this movie... Batman trained with ninjas but fights like a goon on screen smh. You have two big dudes in masks, why not sub in some trained fighters/stuntmen for the fight scenes. It woulda been seamless

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The hand to hand combat fight scenes always been the weakest thing in the whole series. In Batman Begins the camera angles were too close you could barely see what's going on. In TDK it was an improvement, but not by much with the poor fight choreography and it just continued into this movie. Nolan's weak points as a director is definitely direction action, he should have Zack Snyder be his second unit director for him.
 
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Everytime I watch this movie i'm fukking shocked by how trash this scene is

The choreography for the people in the background is just fukking terrible.

Gangs of New York had better fight scenes then this shyt

Not to mention the dialogue:

So you came back to die with your city?

No...I came back to stop you:deadrose:
 

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To think this shyt had a 230 million budget :mjlol:
Nolan gave no fukks

I was n the theater and actually hit the :dwillhuh: when I heard that exchange. This is batman's first interaction with Bane since he made him his son and stashed him in a cave with Directv. You couldn't think of something snappier or better than that? My boy said that this movie just showed that Nolan was like "fukk it, just cash the check"
 

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Not to mention the dialogue:

So you came back to die with your city?

No...I came back to stop you:deadrose:

That (and Talia’s over dramatized death) were my two real gripes with the film.

“So...you came back to die with your city?”
“No. I came back to save it.”

Simple line change and it’s not that great, but it’s better than what we got. :francis:
 

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That (and Talia’s over dramatized death) were my two real gripes with the film.

“So...you came back to die with your city?”
“No. I came back to save it.”

Simple line change and it’s not that great, but it’s better than what we got. :francis:
Better delivery would’ve helped too. Bale just sounded out of it with that delivery.
 

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Better delivery would’ve helped too. Bale just sounded out of it with that delivery.

I mean yeah, maybe, if it was accentuated by fighting . “No, I...:slapfight:came :slapfight: back:slapfight:to:slapfight:stop:slapfight:you.”

Really I think it was poor dialogue all around no matter how you deliver. I mean, really WHY did Batman come back? Once Catwoman one-shot killed Bane, Batman didn't say "Well. I came here to stop Bane, but you got him for me. Now let's get the hell out of here."

What was Batman’s primary motivation that got him out of that pit?

Prison Doctor: You do not fear death. You think this makes you strong. It makes you weak.

Batman: Why?

Prison Doctor: How can you move faster than possible, fight longer than possible without the most powerful impulse of the spirit: the fear of death?

Batman: I do fear death. I fear dying in here, while my city burns, and there's no one there to save it.

Prison Doctor: Then make the climb.

Batman: How?

Prison Doctor: As the child did. Without the rope. Then the fear will find you again.

Not only is that exchange great dialogue, but it also highlights Batman's journey starting in Batman Begins through Dark Knight all the way through Dark Knight Rises. Saving Gotham. Whether through fighting crime or tracking every cell phone in Gotham with sonar technology to catch the Joker to propping up a false idol in Harvey Dent to trying to provide free clean energy for all of Gotham to abandoning the project once he realized the potential danger of the power source being used as a nuclear weapon to sacrificing himself to save Gotham (but coming back three days later like Jesus to retire and fukk Catwoman overseas) to finding a worthy successor (a failed one in Harvey Dent, a successful (?) one in "Robin").

And Talia's death...UGH! Unlike some, I actually find all three to be really high-quality movies, so when something takes me out of it for a second, it's more frustrating than if it was an average movie.

Her melodramatic final exhalation with the whole closing the eyes and slumping her head (just so the audience knew she was dead :rudy:) was dumb as hell, especially for someone with her acting skills.

She should have died similar to that bytch from Get Out, staring Batman straight in the eyes, thinking she had won. No dramatic breaths, just her saying what she had to say and then maintaining a smug kinda creepy stare as the light goes out of her eyes.


 

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I mean yeah, maybe, if it was accentuated by fighting . “No, I...:slapfight:came :slapfight: back:slapfight:to:slapfight:stop:slapfight:you.”

Really I think it was poor dialogue all around no matter how you deliver. I mean, really WHY did Batman come back? Once Catwoman one-shot killed Bane, Batman didn't say "Well. I came here to stop Bane, but you got him for me. Now let's get the hell out of here."

What was Batman’s primary motivation that got him out of that pit?

Prison Doctor: You do not fear death. You think this makes you strong. It makes you weak.

Batman: Why?

Prison Doctor: How can you move faster than possible, fight longer than possible without the most powerful impulse of the spirit: the fear of death?

Batman: I do fear death. I fear dying in here, while my city burns, and there's no one there to save it.

Prison Doctor: Then make the climb.

Batman: How?

Prison Doctor: As the child did. Without the rope. Then the fear will find you again.

Not only is that exchange great dialogue, but it also highlights Batman's journey starting in Batman Begins through Dark Knight all the way through Dark Knight Rises. Saving Gotham. Whether through fighting crime or tracking every cell phone in Gotham with sonar technology to catch the Joker to propping up a false idol in Harvey Dent to trying to provide free clean energy for all of Gotham to abandoning the project once he realized the potential danger of the power source being used as a nuclear weapon to sacrificing himself to save Gotham (but coming back three days later like Jesus to retire and fukk Catwoman overseas) to finding a worthy successor (a failed one in Harvey Dent, a successful (?) one in "Robin").

And Talia's death...UGH! Unlike some, I actually find all three to be really high-quality movies, so when something takes me out of it for a second, it's more frustrating than if it was an average movie.

Her melodramatic final exhalation with the whole closing the eyes and slumping her head (just so the audience knew she was dead :rudy:) was dumb as hell, especially for someone with her acting skills.

She should have died similar to that bytch from Get Out, staring Batman straight in the eyes, thinking she had won. No dramatic breaths, just her saying what she had to say and then maintaining a smug kinda creepy stare as the light goes out of her eyes.
Yeah you and I are simpatico about this movie. After that first bane and Batman fight, it doesn’t work for me one iota. Everything you said
 

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Surprisingly ive ended up rewatching this much more than the other two films. It may be that i wore the others out slightly but i think its more than just that. This film builds well to a very satisfying ending..and a lot goes on and on a very large scale for a film about a man who secretly dresses as a Bat. That fight in broad daylight is really heart pounding shyt.

I remember having a few issues that bothered me when i first saw it, i overlook most of them now. Might just have been how toxic (but fun) imdb was
 

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Everytime I watch this movie i'm fukking shocked by how trash this scene is

The choreography for the people in the background is just fukking terrible.

Gangs of New York had better fight scenes then this shyt

Can't see the link, what scene exactly?
 
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