I don't think we've seen 5% of what Julius Randle is capable of

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Pelicans went from a near-50 win season to a 36-win rate season after adding Julius (in the games he's started they're on pace for a 28-win season)
Lakers went from a 35-win season to a 47-win rate season after getting rid of Julius

Addition by subtraction; subtraction by addition - the career of Julius Randle.

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Gon'head and tell us how he's more than just a role player.

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I never claimed Julius Randle was a star, did I? You’re just arguing semantics; I’ll take Julius Randle for what he is - role player or not, he’s a solid player. And I have watched more games of his than you have to see that. I also know for a damn fact that Randle would be much better to have on the bench than anyone else right now. I just want to go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt by saying you’re trolling with the “addition by subtraction” as if it’s not because of Lebron that we’re on pace for a 50 win season.
 
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I never claimed Julius Randle was a star, did I? You’re just arguing semantics; I’ll take Julius Randle for what he is - role player or not, he’s a solid player. And I have watched more games of his than you have to see that.
Except you haven't.

But let's say for argument's sake you have, it certainly speaks to your inability to see his game for what it is after watching him play more than I supposedly have.
I also know for a damn fact that Randle would be much better to have on the bench than anyone else right now.
What's this in reference to? Better than anyone else on the Lakers bench, or better than any player on every team's bench?
I just want to go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt by saying you’re trolling with the “addition by subtraction” as if it’s not because of Lebron that we’re on pace for a 50 win season.
It speaks to a greater point: both teams were/are in a better position without him. Now, of course, it isn't as simple as just Julius (there are many, many factors), but it most certainly is a factor when you take into account the impact (lack thereof) he has on the game, which beyond the odd hustle play is not only insignificant, but actually a detriment; the Pelicans are learning the hard way right now, as even Gentry insinuated that there's a conflict due to the floor-incompatibility of Julius playing down the stretch.

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Except you haven't.

But let's say for argument's sake you have, it certainly speaks to your inability to see his game for what it is after watching him play more than I supposedly have.

You’re telling an LA native that he hasn’t? :mjlol: No, let’s not for argument’s sake because it’s a fact that I, as an LA native, who has access to the channel, have watched every game.

Randle was a frustrating player at times, but that’s because the whole team was dysfunctional as fukk. However, he showed great effort on defense for the second half of the season as well as being the high energy guy he’s always been.

What's this in reference to? Better than anyone else on the Lakers bench, or better than any player on every team's bench?

He is better than anyone on the Lakers bench currently.

It speaks to a greater point: both teams were/are in a better position without him. Now, of course, it isn't just as simple as just Julius, but it most certainly is a factor when you take into account the impact (lack thereof) he has on the game, which beyond the odd hustle play is not only insignificant, but actually a detriment; the Pelicans are learning the hard way right now, even Gentry insinuated that there's a conflict due to the floor-incompatibility of Julius playing down the stretch.

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There is no point being made here. You’re just trying to find a common denominator that is not there. Your fukked up logic would be more applicable to Jaboari. Julius went to a team where he is replacing the best center in the league and left a team that signed the best player in the league. Jaboari went to a team that is essentially the same as last year and that team is in last place in their conference whereas the team he left is one of the best in the league.

But hey, this is your logic, breh. Addition by subtraction.
 
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You’re telling an LA native that he hasn’t? :mjlol: No, let’s not for argument’s sake because it’s a fact that I, as an LA native, who has access to the channel, have watched every game.
Well, considering I live in LA too.

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And regardless of that, you don't need to be in a specific city to watch a team play, that's what League Pass is for.
Randle was a frustrating player at times, but that’s because the whole team was dysfunctional as fukk. However, he showed great effort on defense for the second half of the season as well as being the high energy guy he’s always been.
He's a temperamental defender: his effort comes and goes as he sees fit, particularly if it means he can conserve it to spam easy scoring opportunities at the other end. Beyond his complete lack of BBIQ and measurements to be an effective defender, he rarely shows urgency on rotations, close-outs, and contesting shots, but would rather put himself in a position to grab rebounds, or skip his assignment to get out in transition.
There is no point being made here. You’re just trying to find a common denominator that is not there..
It's there, but for whatever reason, you just can't see it.

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Julius went to a team where he is replacing the best center in the league and left a team that signed the best player in the league.
Pelicans with Boogie last season: 27-21 (.562)
Pelicans without Boogie last season: 22-12 (.647)

Now, that's not to say they were a better team without Boogie, but it's to say that Julius was NOT replacing him, as he had already been essentially replaced halfway through last season. The Pelicans even made it to the second round without Boogie. Go figure. A # of their struggles this season, particularly since Mirotic has been out, have been because Julius is a detriment to their spacing, flow and functionality on offense, and their paint-protection, PnR and post/block activity on defense. In the act of coddling him on offense this season, the team has actually marginalized AD's game, which is particularly evident down the stretch of games when defenses are more condensed and focused, leaving Julius to becoming an obstacle to his own team (demanding post touches and forcing AD to play on the perimeter; wasting possessions because he can't create his own shot, leading him to turning the ball over, throwing up a junk shot, or throwing a pass back out once he realizes he can't get a shot off), rather than a cog in the machine during offensive possessions.

The majority of his buckets are easily replaceable, because they come from on the break, rim-runs, defensive breakdowns, and crashing the glass. He doesn't offer them anything offensively that the majority of athletic big men aren't capable of. And that's before we get into the fact when he's given touches in the halfcourt, it's typically against the flow of the offense (ending in dead-end possessions), which is only parlayed with him being a black hole.

I wouldn't expect you to know this since if we go by your logic of you being an "LA native", you quite obviously don't pay attention to what happens in the N.O.

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I mean, is there any question over Julius drowning the Pels offense when he's getting 16 touches in the post (v. Dallas), yet converting on less than 30% of his post-ups (28% shooting), which led to a measly 78 offensive rating (team) on those possessions. That is some all-time WOAT shyt.
 
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