I am sharing this because I am Adam Lanza’s mother(Official Mental Health Discussion)

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prove it with some actual evidence or shut the fukk up...

Like I stated watch the video.

Also, use the mind you were born with. If your brain is something that FUNCTIONS off of what you eat, and experience, why do people think none of these things will effect their thinking or perspective of things. Parents need to look at how they lived when they conceived their children and see what may have caused their child's mental illness. The thing is most people don't want to accept that it is them that may not be living right that is causing them problems. Most people taste buds, and lifestyle is so strong that they don't want to make changes which is why people LOVE taking pills, you can take it and move on with life, and continue to do the very thing that caused you problems in the first place, the pain just won't be so bad.
 

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I forgot to mention gut health plays a part because the bacteria in the gut help make niacin which is why a diet that supplies a proper amount of soluble fiber is good. The fiber is food for the bacteria, and the after effects is folic acid, niacin, and other important nutrients are being made for the body to use.

If you do some research you will find a lot of people with mental illness tend to be constipated a lot, and have poor gut motility.
 

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When this kid turns 18, he'll be loose on society and there's nothing anyone can do about it unless he puts himself in treatment voluntarily, or, commits a crime, like pushing an innocent bystander onto the tracks of a train or killing a bunch of little kids.

That is the reality we live in today thanks to Liberals and the Psychiatric practitioners who have no clue what 'mental illness' is.​
 

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Like I stated watch the video.

Also, use the mind you were born with. If your brain is something that FUNCTIONS off of what you eat, and experience, why do people think none of these things will effect their thinking or perspective of things. Parents need to look at how they lived when they conceived their children and see what may have caused their child's mental illness. The thing is most people don't want to accept that it is them that may not be living right that is causing them problems. Most people taste buds, and lifestyle is so strong that they don't want to make changes which is why people LOVE taking pills, you can take it and move on with life, and continue to do the very thing that caused you problems in the first place, the pain just won't be so bad.

like i said....show a peer reviewed study. Oh wait, I'll do the work for you...it doesn't exist.

so..........guess what's coming....STFU
 

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Can't trust this link,Orthomed is one of those conspiracy sites that thinks aids is a man made drug...

Just look at the video. I saw the documentary, and it showed how the treatment was done back in the day. You can also just do the research yourself by looking up niacin and mental health/mental illness.

Also, those links you gave was part of my research years ago on trying to figure mental health out, and led me to learning about epigenetics on nova(pbs) which has shown food turns on or off your genes, as well as your environment or in other words your experiences. They showed feeding the mouse soy turned off the genes that would cause a tumor to grow. I also read an article showing how a protein made some mice more aggressive due to methylation. I can't find it but it was in New Scientist. I think the protein was methionine, but I'm not sure. All of this info came out around 2003-2007, but the news never reported it.

Here's a good link to get the idea of it in simple terms.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...02Ju-g&sig=AHIEtbSbA3_DL7cTgMjZTi4Z2HBNGF5IHA
 

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like i said....show a peer reviewed study. Oh wait, I'll do the work for you...it doesn't exist.

so..........guess what's coming....STFU

You don't want to learn because if you did you would want to learn for yourself if what i state is true or not, but I will help you:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22445461

Niacin subsensitivity is associated with functional impairment in schizophrenia.
Messamore E.
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Behavioral Health and Clinical Neurosciences Division, Portland VA Medical Center, Portland, OR 97239, USA. Erik.Messamore@va.gov
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:

Sensitivity to the skin flush effect of niacin is reduced in a portion of patients with schizophrenia. Though this peripheral physiological abnormality has been widely replicated, its relevance to neuropsychiatric manifestations of the illness has been unclear. The goal of this study was to determine if the niacin response abnormality in schizophrenia is associated with functional impairment.
METHODS:

Following psychiatric assessment, a Global Assessment of Functioning (GAF) score was assigned to each of 40 volunteers with schizophrenia. For each subject, the blood flow responses to several concentrations of topical methylnicotinate were recorded. Blood flow was measured objectively, using laser Doppler flowmetry. From the dose-response data, EC(50) values were derived. GAF scores were assigned without knowledge of the participants' niacin response data.
RESULTS:

There was a significant negative correlation between GAF scores and EC(50) values for methylnicotinate (Pearson r=-0.42; p=0.007).
CONCLUSIONS:

Reduced niacin sensitivity is associated with greater functional impairment among patients with schizophrenia. These findings raise the possibility that a subset of schizophrenia patients possesses a biochemical abnormality that reduces niacin sensitivity in the skin and contributes to functional impairment from the disease.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2643969/
Impaired Flush Response to Niacin Skin Patch Among Schizophrenia Patients and Their Nonpsychotic Relatives: The Effect of Genetic Loading
Shu-Sen Chang,2 Chih-Min Liu,3 Sheng-Hsiang Lin,4 Hai-Gwo Hwu,3 Tzung J. Hwang,3 Shi K. Liu,3,5 Ming H. Hsieh,3 Shi-Chin Guo,2 and Wei J. Chen1,3,4
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This article has been cited by other articles in PMC.
Abstract

We previously reported familial aggregation in flush response to niacin skin patch among schizophrenia patients and their nonpsychotic relatives. However, little is known about whether this abnormal skin response is associated with genetic loading for schizophrenia. This study compared the niacin flush response in subjects from families with only one member affected with schizophrenia (simplex families) with those from families having a sib-pair with schizophrenia (multiplex families). Subjects were patients with schizophrenia and their nonpsychotic first-degree relatives from simplex families (176 probands, 260 parents, and 80 siblings) and multiplex families (311 probands, 180 parents, and 52 siblings) as well as 94 healthy controls. Niacin patches of 3 concentrations (0.001M, 0.01M, and 0.1M) were applied to forearm skin, and the flush response was rated at 5, 10, and 15 minutes, respectively, with a 4-point scale. More attenuated flush response to topical niacin was shown in schizophrenia probands and their relatives from multiplex families than in their counterparts from simplex families, and the differentiation was better revealed using 0.1M concentration of niacin than 0.01M or 0.001M. For the highest concentration of 0.1M and the longest time lag of 15 minutes, a subgroup of probands (23%), parents (27%), and siblings (19%) still exhibited nonflush response. Flush response to niacin skin patch is more impaired in schizophrenia patients and their relatives from families with higher genetic loading for schizophrenia, and this finding has implications for future genetic dissection of schizophrenia.
 

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I forgot to post this article showing how gut bacteria effects behavior. Remember the gut bacteria live off of the soluble fiber from your diet which is why eating beans(preferably dried beans over canned) is the perfect food for the growth of good bacteria as it is the highest nutrient dense food that is high in soluble fiber. I guess the bible was right when it states the seeds of plants will be your meat meaning the bulk of your food.

From guts to brains
From guts to brains – eating probiotic bacteria changes behaviour in mice

Bravo found that his mice, after regularly eating Lactobacillus, were more likely to spend time in the exposed parts of a maze (a common test for anxiety symptoms) than those who ate bacteria-free meals. They were also less likely to drift motionlessly when plopped into water (a common test for depressive symptoms). And during stressful situations, they built up lower levels of stress hormones.

The bacteria also boosted the role of GABA, a restraining chemical that downplays the buzzing of excitable neurons. GABA works by docking with receptor proteins, and Bravo found that Lactobacillus increased the numbers of these receptors in parts of the brain associated with learning, memory and emotional control. The GABA system is involved in several stress-related mental conditions. For example, animals with depressive symptoms have lower levels of GABA receptors in the front of their brains, and one group of anti-anxiety drugs works by enhancing the effects of GABA receptors in humans.
 

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I've worked with mental and physical disabled kids/people about 12 years now and it's crazy how things can be for them. The ones confined to wheelchairs and that can't walk or feed themselves have lots of places they can go. The ones like the kid in the original post and the guy who was beaten to death by the cops a couple years back really have no where.

People look at them and they look "normal" so it's always a case of trying to get them into enough trouble that they go to jail. And even then they don't get proper treatment. It's just a weird situation on how to deal with these kind of things.
 

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Can't believe it's five o'clock where did the night go
 

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I've worked with mental and physical disabled kids/people about 12 years now and it's crazy how things can be for them. The ones confined to wheelchairs and that can't walk or feed themselves have lots of places they can go. The ones like the kid in the original post and the guy who was beaten to death by the cops a couple years back really have no where.

People look at them and they look "normal" so it's always a case of trying to get them into enough trouble that they go to jail. And even then they don't get proper treatment. It's just a weird situation on how to deal with these kind of things.

Doesn't the government subsidize the worst of the lot though?
 

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Doesn't the government subsidize the worst of the lot though?

Yeah...but only so much. A lot of these people (like ones with bipolar) need to take medication, but they also need to be supervised. The medication will have them feeling great, almost back to their old selves and then they'll decide they're not crazy and quit taking the medicine. This will go on so many times that eventually the family gets sick of it and the person either runs away or goes to jail and then is released or whatever under their on power. And not all of them have families who make enough money to have them properly taken care of......even with government help.

Which is why I said it's just a crazy situation. I work with mentally disabled and my girlfriend is a jailer. So we see both sides, but are in total different areas of thinking what needs to be done. I've seen where even the facility gets tired of them and finds some way to get them out. Then people like my girlfriend have to deal with them which is hard for them cause they're only taught so much about them and what they can and can't do.

It's a big circle of shyt that needs to be fixed. And if it was up to me it would start with all the higher ups in these mental institutions. First hand experience: A lot....A LOT of those people don't care.
 

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Good thread somewhat I have a uncle whose schizo he has nowhere to go and has been picked up in the street numerous times its hard because yoy can't trust him in your arm he's Not a big guy but If he snaps like 4 cops are needed to hold him down
 

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Doens't it actually make it EVEN WORSE than a mentally ill person could so easily access guns?

That's exactly why I saw you need EXTREMELY severe gun control, because, well, you already know what happens when you don't.

(and miss me with the "bu bu bu he can also get a knife"...yes, a mentally ill person who totally flips could even kill you with his bare arms. Is that reason enough TO DO NOTHING?)
 
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