Humans are so demonic

[BlackBieber]

you made a thread regarding philosophy, so this is what im discussing. if you didn't want people discussing morality, shouldn't have made a thread on it, ya doofus.

suck my dikk hoe

 

[ryshy]

altruism is selfish in itself, though..

when people do charity work they do it because the internal reward.. it makes you feel good to help others. that's selfish.

"No one has ever done anything that was solely for another and without a personal motive. How indeed could he do anything that was not related to himself, thus without an inner necessity (which simply must have its basis in a personal need)? How could the ego act without the ego?"
- Nietzsche - Human, All Too Human"

eh in a way, i knew u were gonna say this, but ill put it this way. There are 8 states of consciousness (9 depending on who you ask). If you are on one of these levels, you just cannot understand the thought processes of someone in a different level. For instance, someone whose obsessed with money wont truly understand how someone who devotes their life to saving tigers thinks. The same thing happens here. As someone who thinks on the level OP does, you dont do these things wiith the intent for internal reward. You couldnt give a single fukk about that, its all abut that person being helped. For some its about knowing you helped them which is what you say. But others like me do it from a higher perspective, you help someone and move on, because helping others is just what you do. You do it because it must be done, because if you dont you cant help but ruminate over what youve done.

I think its unfair to say someone is selfish for doing that, its the opposite of being selfish. You could spend that time watching tv or spend your money on skittles, but you sacrifice that for others. For anyone to say that one is selfish like everyone else for doing that is very naive. Like i said, if your not the type of person to do that you cant understand the thought processes of someone who does.

 

[Richard Wright]

bytch shut the fukk up

You sound like someone who has never produced anything.

“Productiveness is your acceptance of morality, your recognition of the fact that you choose to live--that productive work is the process by which man's consciousness controls his existence, a constant process of acquiring knowledge and shaping matter to fit one's purpose, of translating an idea into physical form, of remaking the earth in the image of one's values--that all work is creative work if done by a thinking mind, and no work is creative if done by a blank who repeats in uncritical stupor a routine he has learned from others--that your work is yours to choose, and the choice is as wide as your mind, that nothing more is possible to you and nothing less is human--that to cheat your way into a job bigger than your mind can handle is to become a fear-corroded ape on borrowed motions and borrowed time, and to settle down into a job that requires less than your mind's full capacity is to cut your motor and sentence yourself to another kind of motion: decay--that your work is the process of achieving your values, and to lose your ambition for values is to lose your ambition to live--that your body is a machine, but your mind is its driver, and you must drive as far as your mind will take you, with achievement as the goal of your road--that the man who has no purpose is a machine that coasts downhill at the mercy of any boulder to crash in the first chance ditch, that the man who stifles his mind is a stalled machine slowly going to rust, that the man who lets a leader prescribe his course is a wreck being towed to the scrap heap, and the man who makes another man his goal is a hitchhiker no driver should ever pick up--that your work is the purpose of your life, and you must speed past any killer who assumes the right to stop you, that any value you might find outside your work, any other loyalty or love, can be only travelers you choose to share your journey and must be travelers going on their own power in the same direction.”
― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

 

[Dada]

Feeling angsty? I have some Manson cds you can borrow and a razor blade.

 

[Beegio]

you made a thread regarding philosophy, so this is what im discussing. if you didn't want people discussing morality, shouldn't have made a thread on it, ya doofus.

Receive daps by thirsty virgin posters cause you're a white chic that likes hip hop and let that gas your head up enough to actually think anybody gives a fukk about what you have to say when the truth is nobody really gives a fukk brehs

 

[Nature Boy Ric Flair]

THE NATURE BOY ONLY GIVES A fukk ABOUT THREE THINGS:

p*ssy
COCAINE

AND






























THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[ryshy]

This thread is a primary example of the states of consciuosness. Most of you dont understand OPs point and even demean it despite the fact that its as true as can be. This is the type of shyt guys like jesus and budda said, things that humanity has mutually agreed upon as universal truths. This is also a very sad thing, as it suggests the vast majority of people will never be so altruistic as to help lead humanity towards peace and fairness

 

[NotaPAWG]

eh in a way, i knew u were gonna say this, but ill put it this way. There are 8 states of consciousness (9 depending on who you ask). If you are on one of these levels, you just cannot understand the thought processes of someone in a different level. For instance, someone whose obsessed with money wont truly understand how someone who devotes their life to saving tigers thinks. The same thing happens here. As someone who thinks on the level OP does, you dont do these things wiith the intent for internal reward. You couldnt give a single fukk about that, its all abut that person being helped. For some its about knowing you helped them which is what you say. But others like me do it from a higher perspective, you help someone and move on, because helping others is just what you do. You do it because it must be done, because if you dont you cant help but ruminate over what youve done.

I think its unfair to say someone is selfish for doing that, its the opposite of being selfish. You could spend that time watching tv or spend your money on skittles, but you sacrifice that for others. For anyone to say that one is selfish like everyone else for doing that is very naive. Like i said, if your not the type of person to do that you cant understand the thought processes of someone who does.

good points


but I have to ask regarding the underlined part. I'm a philosophy noob, never went to school.. just interested as hobby, so excuse me for asking..

but say someones bleeding out on the street after being stabbed or something and i help them..am i doing it because they "need" the help in order to survive or am i doing it because I don't want the emotional and mental punishment of not doing so?

Receive daps by thirsty virgin posters cause you're a white chic that likes hip hop and let that gas your head up enough to actually think anybody gives a fukk about what you have to say when the truth is nobody really gives a fukk brehs

bring up irrelevant points in a thread that has nothing to do with whats being discussed just so you can insult me. feel better now? thanks for proving you are a man child.

 

[ryshy]

good points


but I have to ask regarding the underlined part. I'm a philosophy noob, never went to school.. just interested as hobby, so excuse me for asking..

but say someones bleeding out on the street after being stabbed or something and i help them..am i doing it because they "need" the help in order to survive or am i doing it because I don't want the emotional and mental punishment of not doing so?




bring up irrelevant points in a thread that has nothing to do with whats being discussed just so you can insult me. feel better now? thanks for proving you are a man child.

its probably both tbh, for most people. But for someone on that budda steez its just about helping. Like jesus, he just went around healing people, not out of a fear of guilt, but out of pure compassion

btw i didnt take philosophy the best way to learn is just through life experiences. It might sound dumb but i learned a shytload of this stuff from anime. They tie in a lot of metaphors and transcendental values and what not into the shows/movies. Im naturally a deep thinker too i started thinking about it daydreaming in class

 

[Ciggavelli]

Something about Darwinism...taking as many resources for ourselves and our family so we can reproduce...blah, blah, blah

 

[Beegio]

This thread is a primary example of the states of consciuosness. Most of you dont understand OPs point and even demean it despite the fact that its as true as can be. This is the type of shyt guys like jesus and budda said, things that humanity has mutually agreed upon as universal truths. This is also a very sad thing, as it suggests the vast majority of people will never be so altruistic as to help lead humanity towards peace and fairness

OP didn't say anything deep, so why is it so hard to understand? He just got caught up in his feelings about other people's hard road in life.

Most people have hardships in life in one way or another breh. For some it may be financial, for others it may be emotional, or physical health, or mental health, etc.

A lot of people have multiple of the hardships I listed above, at the same damn time

Who are you to assume what other people understand about a post that's not as deep as you believe it to be, or have done to help other people in need? The fact is, you have no fukking clue what anyone besides yourself has done to help humanity. So the real question is...

What have YOU personally done to "help lead humanity towards peace and fairness"

 

[observe]

God put those people here on earth for us to feel better about ourselves

 

[Beegio]

good points


but I have to ask regarding the underlined part. I'm a philosophy noob, never went to school.. just interested as hobby, so excuse me for asking..

but say someones bleeding out on the street after being stabbed or something and i help them..am i doing it because they "need" the help in order to survive or am i doing it because I don't want the emotional and mental punishment of not doing so?




bring up irrelevant points in a thread that has nothing to do with whats being discussed just so you can insult me. feel better now? thanks for proving you are a man child.

Edit posts you made to address someone you're furious at when you didn't address them initially in the post but only did so because that ether burns slow and the person that you're furious at isn't insulting you he's only telling the truth and it hurts brehs

 

[NotaPAWG]

Edit posts you made to address someone you're furious at when you didn't address them initially in the post but only did so because that ether burns slow and the person that you're furious at isn't insulting you he's only telling the truth and it hurts brehs

you didn't ether me, you threw out facts.. me being white, me being a female and me liking hip hop and passed judgement based upon those facts as if you were saying something worthy yourself in an attempt to insult me

everyone else in this thread was discussing things relevant to OP until your stupid ass came in here on some wanna be tough guy shyt and replied to my post with something completely irrelevant cause your opinion of me posting was sooooooo important but im the one who thinks what I have to say is important?

 

[Black]