Humans are so demonic

[MAKAVELI25]

Children bring parents a lot more than just financial burden.
But I'm really not educated enough in psychology or evolution or sociology to thoroughly answer all those questions the right way.

But what do they bring? Joy? Love? Why do we even NEED Joy and Love? Why don't we just SURVIVE?

 

[Remote]

But what do they bring? Joy? Love? Why do we even NEED Joy and Love? Why don't we just SURVIVE?

Love is a necessity. Though it varies to what degree people are talking about.

I understand that some people feel it's some abstract thing, but it's not. I wish I paid more attention in Sociology class. I remember hearing a fascinating lecture about studies done with that.

 

[NotaPAWG]

op, you're selfish yourself. it's just what is view as morally and socially acceptable that differentiates the two.

for example: human beings wanting to survive and procreate is selfish. we don't need to, we do it because we want to.. we feel we are important somehow in the universe to ensure our existence.

we need food to survive, or we will die.. we eat food because it ensures our existence and that's our aim.

animals are selfish in nature. we're all selfish.

 

[ryshy]

But they are no less a marvel. For example, consider the issue of "sentiment". Why are we sentimental? In your example with the gorilla and the baby, why do we have such an intense preoccupation with ensuring the survival of our children? Why would we die for our children? What are children to us but decades of financial as well as physical and psychological burdens? Unless our children turn out to be rich (which is VERY rare indeed), what do we get from ensuring that THEY survive even to the point where we'll put OURSELVES in danger? Some things cannot be explained through instinct, friend.

i agree 100%. Everything about the universe is astounding. No one knows why gravity exists (Einstein would say he does, but why does spacetime exist), Where neutrons, protons, photons, neutrinos, etc. came from and what they truly are. No one knows why the big bang occured and why it created the universe so perfectly. No one even knows why elements are so different just by adding or subtracting one proton. Why is nature so beautiful? Nebulas of vivid blue and red colors, Flowers, butterflies, white women (jk ), why did things turn out so perfectly? How did humans become sentient? Why do we naturally strive to reproduce? Who created these behaviors of all life, the desire to survive, evolution, etc. Its all so wonderful, this is why every human life and every animal and plant life should be valued. Sadly humanity forgets these things, instead being driven by the need of social status instead of immersing oneself in true beauty.

 

[ryshy]

op, you're selfish yourself. it's just what is view as morally and socially acceptable that differentiates the two.

for example: human beings wanting to survive and procreate is selfish. we don't need to, we do it because we want to.. we feel we are important somehow in the universe to ensure our existence.

we need food to survive, or we will die.. we eat food because it ensures our existence and that's our aim.

animals are selfish in nature. we're all selfish.

this post does nothing to defeat OPs point. Does that mean we shouldnt attempt to help eachother? Should we just use this as an excuse to continue being vane? Sounds like a self serving bias

 

[NotaPAWG]

this post does nothing to defeat OPs point. Does that mean we shouldnt attempt to help eachother? Should we just use this as an excuse to continue being vane? Sounds like a self serving bias

not at all. human beings do what is in their own self interest to ensure survival. animals, do it as well..but that doesn't mean we should harm others in the process...

ethical egoism

 

[Beegio]

Just think of how selfish, uncaring and self-centered we are

There's literally people you pass by everyday that don't have a roof over their heads
That don't have anything to eat
Families struggling to pay rent
Single parents balancing 3 jobs

Yet most of us are out here only looking to enrich ourselves
We spend money on clothes just to look good to other people and prolong a superficial materialistic egotistical society(but that's another topic)

Like really, just take it in. There's prolly girls in your city prostituting themselves because the fukked up life they were born into left them with no other means to get money.

For God's sake there's whole villages where kids are dying of starvation.

And we got people here buying food that looks good just to take pictures of it.

Like how fukked up are we. I don't know about you but I'm done. I'm done being just another slave to the consumer society. I'm done being useless. I wanna help someone.

I'm not even gon front to you call me a p*ssy whatever but I just shed tears watching this video


Seeing what this girl is going through and how many others are going through the same thing. It just triggered something in me and I almost broke down. It's not fair. And nobody gives a fukk.

This generation is so emo

 

[NotaPAWG]

This generation is so emo

 

[Beegio]

Didn't you yourself?

Now you're back?

 

[NotaPAWG]

Didn't you yourself?

Now you're back?

doesn't matter, still a better poster than you

 

[ryshy]

not at all. human beings always do what is in their own self interest to ensure survival. animals, do it as well..

but that doesn't mean we should harm others in the process.

ethical egoism

haha well i disagree, id put it this way. Bacteria have 1 dimensional thinking, solely on reproduction and eating. Animals have 2d thinking, since they also think about things like love and compassion. Humans have 3d thinking, meaning we have total free will in terms of thinking. We are not slaves to our nature, obviuosly there are things we must do physically but mentally we can do whatever we want. Some decide to release sexual energy through rape, most through mutually agreed upon sex, others by fapping. We can take care of our needs however we want to. We also can do things like sacrificing ourselves for others. Your point is wrong when you consider those who work at goodwill for instance. Many say they do it to seem nice but truly those who do these things do it just to help others, no selfish desires involved.

 

[Beegio]

doesn't matter, still a better poster than you

Great...have a cookie

Then cry and announce you're leaving this site again...

Then come back again...

 

[NotaPAWG]

haha well i disagree, id put it this way. Bacteria have 1 dimensional thinking, solely on reproduction and eating. Animals have 2d thinking, since they also think about things like love and compassion. Humans have 3d thinking, meaning we have total free will in terms of thinking. We are not slaves to our nature, obviuosly there are things we must do physically but mentally we can do whatever we want. Some decide to release sexual energy through rape, most through mutually agreed upon sex, others by fapping. We can take care of our needs however we want to. We also can do things like sacrificing ourselves for others. Your point is wrong when you consider those who work at goodwill for instance. Many say they do it to seem nice but truly those who do these things do it just to help others, no selfish desires involved.

altruism is selfish in itself, though..

when people do charity work they do it because the internal reward.. it makes you feel good to help others. that's selfish.

"No one has ever done anything that was solely for another and without a personal motive. How indeed could he do anything that was not related to himself, thus without an inner necessity (which simply must have its basis in a personal need)? How could the ego act without the ego?"
- Nietzsche - Human, All Too Human

 

[BlackBieber]

altruism is selfish in itself, though..

when people do charity work they do it because the internal reward.. it makes you feel good to help others. that's selfish.

"No one has ever done anything that was solely for another and without a personal motive. How indeed could he do anything that was not related to himself, thus without an inner necessity (which simply must have its basis in a personal need)? How could the ego act without the ego?"
- Nietzsche - Human, All Too Human

bytch shut the fukk up

 

[NotaPAWG]

bytch shut the fukk up

you made a thread regarding philosophy, so this is what im discussing. if you didn't want people discussing morality, shouldn't have made a thread on it, ya doofus.