How's our friendly neighbourhood playfighter Ricochet doing on the main roster?

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Problem is these indy guys coming up know how to be wrestlers but not entertainers. It really is sports entertainment without storylines and personalities and promos shyt gets boring. Richoett, Rollins all these dudes can wrestle but have no personality or swagger. Hulk Hogan did the same 5 moves and he's one of the most over guys in wrestling history and his matches suck.
 

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Problem is these indy guys coming up know how to be wrestlers but not entertainers. It really is sports entertainment without storylines and personalities and promos shyt gets boring. Richoett, Rollins all these dudes can wrestle but have no personality or swagger. Hulk Hogan did the same 5 moves and he's one of the most over guys in wrestling history and his matches suck.
That’s false. They’re not allowed to be entertainers. If they get themselves over they’re quickly cut off at the knees.
 

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That’s false. They’re not allowed to be entertainers. If they get themselves over they’re quickly cut off at the knees.
This is also true they def don't want anyone bigger than the company. It's still a problem tho in wrestling that indy guys don't do angles or promos then they get to big companies and they have no personality or mic skills.
 

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This is also true they def don't want anyone bigger than the company. It's still a problem tho in wrestling that indy guys don't do angles or promos then they get to big companies and they have no personality or mic skills.

Yep, just look at AEW. Your personality should not be limited to your outfit or an entrance.

The matches are fine and the show is decent, but they don't emphasize story or character enough
 

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Yep, just look at AEW. Your personality should not be limited to your outfit or an entrance.

The matches are fine and the show is decent, but they don't emphasize story or character enough
Yea and match after match with no stakes gets lame. Indy shows are run off, one offs but when it's a weekly tv show you need something more than just matches.
 

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Yea and match after match with no stakes gets lame. Indy shows are run off, one offs but when it's a weekly tv show you need something more than just matches.

I don't think you need high stakes for every match, but they need to show us why these guys and girls are worth watching every week.

You can see that they're trying to build characters up with vignettes but they have to do more. If you put them out there with no connection to the audience, what's going to happen 5 or 6 months from now? Will the novelty of being new faces wear off? You don't need guys to wrestle on screen every week to feature them. What happened to Darby Allin? Kenny Omega? Adam Page?

They have so many "new" characters. Great, some of these guys are indy darlings. But it's not the indies anymore and you're on national TV every week. You have more people watching Dynamite than BTE. New viewers to the programs have zero connection to these guys. AEW is trying to explain these characters on screen through commentary when they need to show us who these guys are. Let them do something besides wrestle if they don't have anything to do.
 

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In Lucha Underground they had him in a mask and gave him a manager. In the WWE, they put a mic in his hand and had him get served by Baron Corbin and Drew McIntyre.

It’s like if Ricochet has all of these flaws and needed this much work in his 30s, why hire him?
 

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It’s like if Ricochet has all of these flaws and needed this much work in his 30s, why hire him?

It’s just the WWE wanting to corner the market on wrestling just so other companies can die off. That’s why it’s important for their to be viable alternatives in wrestling. The WWE has every asset available to May guys look like stars, but often they look like dweebs.
 

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Now talk about kenny omega being #2 star IN NJPW with great story telling to wrestling in aew dark and getn his ass whooped half the time on ppvs...

And i dont give a fukk if he has the AAA corona lime title...
Kung Fu Kenny has the book whenever he wants it. You know it’s not the same.
 
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