How would the media act if Rob Gronkowski was a black man from Compton named Romeo
- Thread starter Born2BKing
- Start date
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Michael got locked up and was on coke. Why go to the lowest common denominator thinking you're proving a point?
You really think blacks are viewed the same, even if given proof from childhood that it isn't the case.
When Gronk gets caught with coke and hookers...then maybe we can start.
Gronks partying is on the level of Chris Duhons. He goes out and funnels beers with blondes.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Dog...I can't imagine a black player partying after a supr bowl loss and having to go back to articles to last year to hear about it. We'd hear about it as recently as yesterday.
Like I said...I gave evidence of how blacks doing the same shyt gets treated differently and tied it to my beliefs. You choose not.
oh come on
Fact is Gronk is a beast and until he starts fukking up on the field he'll be able to live whichever way he wants unless he were to get arrested. Lawrence Taylor got the same pass from NY
Fair argument, but I don't know if Rob Gronkowski's the best example we could be using for this. While Gronk definitely comes off as a fun-loving doofus, he's not really doing anything that's detrimental to the team, breaking the law, or coming off as arrogant.
He's also doing it while producing at an elite-level and being the best tight-end in the league. To be fair, I think a guy like Tony Gonzalez, Jimmy Graham, or Gates (when he was playing at an elite level) could get away with the same things that Gronk does without harsher criticism (if they were all young & single...because I'm sure Gonzo's married w/ kids)
When you think about it, being an elite player & winning a lot (consistently) seems to be the best insurance against criticism regardless of color.
If he ever throws his QB under the bus like T.O., admits to "playing hard when he wants to" like Moss, rocks a Hall of Fame jacket during a game like Chad, gets arrested like my entire hometown team, kicks his mother's ass like Dez, gets caught up in the strip club like Pacman, fights dogs like Vick, or just starts costing his team with penalties & shyt then maybe we could have a better argument).
One great point that other people have brought up is that playing for the Patriots definitely protects him b/c he doesn't have a lot of opportunities to hang himself with sound-bytes. :belipetraeus:
A better argument could be Jay Cutler Vs. Cam Newton. You guys could go back and forth all day with those two.
Right now, Gronk is like football's less attention-whoring version of Dwight Howard (the Orlando version: A big goof with great stats that hasn't hurt anyone yet.
He's also doing it while producing at an elite-level and being the best tight-end in the league. To be fair, I think a guy like Tony Gonzalez, Jimmy Graham, or Gates (when he was playing at an elite level) could get away with the same things that Gronk does without harsher criticism (if they were all young & single...because I'm sure Gonzo's married w/ kids)
When you think about it, being an elite player & winning a lot (consistently) seems to be the best insurance against criticism regardless of color.
If he ever throws his QB under the bus like T.O., admits to "playing hard when he wants to" like Moss, rocks a Hall of Fame jacket during a game like Chad, gets arrested like my entire hometown team, kicks his mother's ass like Dez, gets caught up in the strip club like Pacman, fights dogs like Vick, or just starts costing his team with penalties & shyt then maybe we could have a better argument).
One great point that other people have brought up is that playing for the Patriots definitely protects him b/c he doesn't have a lot of opportunities to hang himself with sound-bytes. :belipetraeus:
A better argument could be Jay Cutler Vs. Cam Newton. You guys could go back and forth all day with those two.
Right now, Gronk is like football's less attention-whoring version of Dwight Howard (the Orlando version: A big goof with great stats that hasn't hurt anyone yet.
Walt the only person I was getting at here was Gronkowski.
He parties. I've seen countless black athletes out in NYC and other places doing the same shyt. If you're in your 20's and drinking its expected as long as you're not getting into trouble.
Again, this thread is all over the place trying to prove something that isnt there about a tight end that dominates his position.
The best comparison is Lawerence Taylor(who was a lot crazier off the field than Gronk) and he was a god to the NY fans, media and Bill Parcells.
He parties. I've seen countless black athletes out in NYC and other places doing the same shyt. If you're in your 20's and drinking its expected as long as you're not getting into trouble.
Again, this thread is all over the place trying to prove something that isnt there about a tight end that dominates his position.
The best comparison is Lawerence Taylor(who was a lot crazier off the field than Gronk) and he was a god to the NY fans, media and Bill Parcells.
The majority of his problems came from bankrolling an interstate criminal organization.
The dog issue got the most outrage, but the feds came after him for the operation itself.
Gronk was the wrong person to use for this argument. While valid, Gronk parties and it hasn't been reported that's it gone too far, drugs, hookers, blackout drunk. Rodman was loved for his antics in Chicago, until he kicked a cameraman in the nuts and headbutted a ref which made people
. But the partying, different color hair, showing up to a book signing in a wedding dress...most didn't go crazy because he was playing his ass off.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Gronk's lurid statements (which doesn't bother me or most in here), him partying immediately after the Super Bowl (which doesn't bother me or most in here), chilling with porn stars (which doesn't bother me or most in here), shown drinking and partying wildly (which doesn't bother me or most in here), would NOT be received as "Gronk simply being Gronk" if he were black. Somewhere when revealing those parts of him, some white sports writer wanna be social scientist would paint him in a negative light, saying he isn't focused, hangs out with a "posse" and other BS.
Black folks don't have those liberties in the press.
Just so you know, I fukk with Gronk in terms of respecting that he's dead ass nice.
And I don't give even half a fukk about him taking photos with whores who are clothed in nothing but his jersey. I also don't give half a fukk about him partying after losing the Super Bowl. I just wish the general public and the media extended that (reasonable) pass to a wider spectrum of athletes. As much as American society worships pro athletes, they also have an unrealistic understanding of how hard these motherfukkers work, and how talented they are. As much as they exert themselves on a regular basis, as specialized as their talents are, it blows my mind that in 2012 common folk still talk about players "having the privilege to play a game" and begrudge these hardworking, high-stress-work-environment-laboring, brief-earning-span-having, players a line of coke here and there, some strip club visits, and the desire to be more than an anonymous helmet wearing gladiator.