How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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some of you are gonna be a lot happier if you take 2020 for what it was; not a transformative election, but merely a decisive dethroning of the orange fakkit by a moderate who's only gonna be a one term president. i can tell that the actual implications of the downballot results havent really sunk in around here :skip:

take the senate in '22, and run a dynamic ticket in '24. joe biden is not gonna peel off his mask during the first state of the union and reveal that he's bernie sanders underneath
We are not asking him to be Bernie.

We were asking him to not pick Mr. Monsanto as Ag Secretary for example. Vilsack was in charge of Biden’s rural electoral strategy and it failed!

Farmers hate the man. It’s documented. He works for Big Ag ad consolidation. It’s bad.

I don’t mind the other picks. It’s what I’d expect from Biden. In aggregate, this is a better team than Obama so far. Treasury will be better than 2009 for sure. Still a lot more to go.
 

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Constructive criticism =/= crying.

C'mon man. I like Biden but he's open to criticism just like any other politician.
These dudes don't give a shyt about any of the nominees or even Biden, they just think it's funny to troll progressives. Biden could pick anybody and they'd have the exact same reaction. :coffee:
 

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Biden doubling down on a terrible strategy. Farmers HATE Vilsack.


Need Dems to nuke Vilsaks nomination

I used to work with AG during this period. While this could be good for younger brehs, but they definitely ain’t gonna win over rural workers.

Also, the Shirley Sherrod incident happened under Vilsack. :mjpls:
 

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some of you are gonna be a lot happier if you take 2020 for what it was; not a transformative election, but merely a decisive dethroning of the orange fakkit by a moderate who's only gonna be a one term president. i can tell that the actual implications of the downballot results havent really sunk in around here :skip:

take the senate in '22, and run a dynamic ticket in '24. joe biden is not gonna peel off his mask during the first state of the union and reveal that he's bernie sanders underneath
Facts.
 

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@FAH1223 i gotta a question. Why is it a big deal that Democrats are losing the rural vote? These toothless hillbillies always hate the cities especially inner cities.
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Anti-rural policy is also often a cipher for anti-Industrial policy, which is very problematic for the long-term nature of the American economy which then becomes problematic for the long-term nature of American society.
 

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@FAH1223 i gotta a question. Why is it a big deal that Democrats are losing the rural vote? These toothless hillbillies always hate the cities especially inner cities.
Anti-rural policy is also often a cipher for anti-Industrial policy, which is very problematic for the long-term nature of the American economy which then becomes problematic for the long-term nature of American society.

Its not about losing. It’s about cutting margins. Dems shouldn’t be losing 75-25 in rural areas. Obama was getting damn near close to 40% in some rural areas in 2008.

Obama handily won WI, MI, PA, IA both times.

A few things to blame. The Dems letting the Tea Party in 2009 take foothold and not defeating its messaging was a huge miss. The Dems getting wiped the fukk out in 2010 brought intense gerrymandering all over the place as we all know.

Right wing hate radio exploded in the last decade. There is no liberal alternative in so much of the country.

Local news stations have been taken over by Sinclair.

Local news papers are closing left and right thanks to Facebook/Google becoming huge and gobbling up all the ad revenue... that's an Obama administration failure that Dems don't want to talk about.

But Vilsack's terrible ag policy has to be at the top of the list too. Like look at this: Farmers Reject Biden’s Pro-Corporate Rural Advisers

The Trump administration’s failure in rural America provides Biden an opportunity to present a message of fairness against powerful interests. According to polling taken this spring by Change Research, a whopping 80 percent of rural voters believed that “political elites impose their will on my life,” and would be more likely to vote for someone who supported breaking up the “handful of corporate monopolies now run[ning] our entire food system.” An anti-corruption, anti–big business message that protected family farms would play well in this region.

The Obama-Biden rural plan gestured toward this strategy, to some success. Its platform was notably aggressive on preventing anti-competitive behavior, and won states like Iowa, Ohio, Indiana, and North Carolina, with better-than-expected rural numbers. “I thought Obama would be the next Teddy Roosevelt,” says Mike Callicrate, a cattle rancher in St. Francis, Kansas, for nearly 50 years.

After the election, Obama’s USDA (under Vilsack’s control) and the Justice Department set out on a five-city listening tour of farm country, hearing stories about Big Ag price discrimination, abuse of market power, and intimidation. Farmers who spoke out risked retaliation from big producers who could crush them. But after the hearings, no enforcement actions were taken, more mergers were approved, and GIPSA rules were delayed and ultimately weakened. Obama’s team dubiously asserted that their hands were tied by the antitrust laws.

“He did nothing, and Vilsack did nothing and the Department of Justice did nothing,” says Callicrate. “They totally betrayed us.” This created a lack of trust that has now spread to both parties. If Biden broke with this past and brought in new advisers with a commitment to protecting family farms, that trust could begin to be rebuilt. But instead, the Biden team has returned to the same old corporate-ag well.


One Country Project, a dark-money group dedicated to winning back rural voters. It starts from the shaky premise that two senators who were trounced in rural America hold the key to unlocking the region. That One Country’s website was registered by a corporate lobbying firm doesn’t add confidence either.

One Country’s issue guide has some decent material on increasing health access, stopping climate change, protecting the Postal Service, and building rural broadband. But on farm policy, it leads with the need to “open markets and make it easier for farmers to make a good living,” neglecting how Big Ag intercepts trade revenues and impoverishes family farmers. During the COVID-19 crisis, meat companies have been exporting in record numbers, while blaming shortages for rising grocery prices and cutting payments to farmers and ranchers to the bone. An export-driven strategy, in other words, has only led to outsized profit margins for industry giants.

There’s nothing in One Country’s materials about corporate concentration and monopoly power. “It’s a mystery to me what they’re up to,” says Chris Petersen, who is active in Iowa politics and has spoken directly to Biden and vice-presidential nominee Kamala Harris in the past. “With who Heidi Heitkamp is, with the corporate hat on, it doesn’t look good.”

Heitkamp’s fingerprints are all over Biden’s rural policy. She endorsed Biden before the North Dakota primary in March, and has led rural voter events for the campaign. Liberty Schneider, Heitkamp’s campaign manager in 2018, became the Democratic National Committee’s director of rural outreach and engagement last year. According to trade publication Agri-pulse, One Country is working to help Biden and Democratic congressional campaigns with rural outreach. Biden has openly praised Heitkamp, and behind the scenes, he has floated Heitkamp as a leading choice to run USDA, sources tell the Prospect. In this sense, One Country looks like a vehicle for a Cabinet appointment.

“The track record of Heitkamp was not one that understood the importance of certain issues to family farmers and ranchers,” says Maxwell, of Family Farm Action. He noted that Heitkamp was the top Senate recipient of funds from the crop production industry in the 2018 cycle, with over $247,000, and she received money from meatpacking giant Smithfield Foods and its Chinese-owned parent company WH Group. In 2018, Heitkamp voted against an amendment to the farm bill that would have added transparency to “checkoff” programs intended for agricultural marketing, which have become slush funds for lobbying organizations, used in campaigns that hurt family farmers.

Tom Vilsack has also been one of Biden’s top advisers on ag policy, touring Iowa with the former vice president before the caucuses. He also served on the DNC platform committee, crafting the language on rural issues. “The track record of Tom Vilsack is abysmal when it comes to independent family agriculture,” says Maxwell. In addition to his role disappointing farmers while at USDA, critics point to him taking a job as president and CEO of the U.S. Dairy Export Council just days after the end of Obama’s term.

The council’s members include large corporate dairy interests, which have dominated the industry and destroyed family farms. About 4,600 dairy farms have closed every year, with some dairy companies now including a list of suicide prevention hotlines in their envelopes with farmers’ checks.

Vilsack’s advice, like Heitkamp and One Country, promotes exports as a strategy for farm country renewal. “He is owned lock, stock, and barrel by Wall Street and the packers and the food companies,” says Kansas cattle farmer Mike Callicrate.

This is the fork in the road available to Biden: Break with corporate agriculture and drum up support in communities ground down by monopoly power, or maintain the corporate-ag model.

The 2020 platform and Biden’s rural policy are more muted on ag monopolies than those under Obama-Biden in 2008. They do promise to review mergers in agribusiness and “strengthen enforcement” of existing antitrust laws. And both have decent language on expanding domestic markets through regional food systems and promoting sustainable and regenerative practices. Biden campaign surrogates have highlighted his plans to support Black farmers and reverse discrimination, while using agriculture as a spur to fight climate change.

Maxwell thinks that the platform language should be stronger, returning to the initial intent of the Packers and Stockyards Act, with stiff penalties for monopoly abuse of family farmers and ranchers. But the real problem, he explains, is that Vilsack, “the person that candidate Biden is listening to, has an eight-year commitment of not living up to those issues.”

Cattle rancher Carrie Balkcom echoes this concern. “We’re not going to get anywhere as long as they are the voices in Washington,” she says. “They’re representing the big people that keep the little people trapped. I’ve been kicking the door in for 20-some years. We’ve got to be at the table.”


ALL OF THE FARMERS interviewed for this article thought the post-coronavirus moment was perfect for a message of shorter supply chains and local processing. Petersen says his Berkshire Gold non-confinement pork has six-month waiting lists. Balkcom adds that family farmers are seeing upticks in sales. Whether because of worker abuse in meatpacking plants or high grocery prices, a light bulb has gone off that supporting family farmers makes moral and economic sense.

It’s also a bridge to a more equal America. “If you could have things processed locally, you bring back those economies, supporting the local hardware store and local schools, and money stays in the community,” says Carrie Balkcom. In her hometown in South Florida, there are three dollar stores and no grocery for fresh foods. “We’ve become part of a secondhand economy,” adds Mike Callicrate. “Farmers are eating out of dollar stores, they can’t even get good food.”

This is the fork in the road available to Biden: Break with corporate agriculture and drum up support in communities ground down by monopoly power, or maintain the corporate-ag model, and continue the decades-long Democratic trend of bleeding support outside big cities. “These issues are well known to rural America,” Maxwell says. “You don’t have to convince them that corporate concentration and monopolies are bad for them. They live through it every day.”

A lot of anti-monopoly work can be done unilaterally, outside of Congress. Biden could rewrite the GIPSA rules and let family farmers sue over abuses, while restoring the oversight agency’s power. He could rewrite merger guidelines and review markets under that higher standard. He could restore country-of-origin labeling for beef and pork.

Callicrate believes that rural America turned to Trump because they hate both parties. “Now we find out that Trump is worse than either party,” he says. “We have to go after concentrated power and wealth, it’s the greatest threat to any free society in history,” he explains. “We’re scared shytless. We cannot survive with the policy that exists. There is not going to be anything left of rural America.”

Biden has a golden opportunity. But appointing a ghoul like Vilsack fukks it up. Its the worst cabinet pick. By far.
 

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@FAH1223 i gotta a question. Why is it a big deal that Democrats are losing the rural vote? These toothless hillbillies always hate the cities especially inner cities.

Its not about losing. It’s about cutting margins. Dems shouldn’t be losing 75-25 in rural areas. Obama was getting damn near close to 40% in some rural areas in 2008.

Obama handily won WI, MI, PA, IA both times.

A few things to blame. The Dems letting the Tea Party in 2009 take foothold and not defeating its messaging was a huge miss. The Dems getting wiped the fukk out in 2010 brought intense gerrymandering all over the place as we all know.

Right wing hate radio exploded in the last decade. There is no liberal alternative in so much of the country.

Local news stations have been taken over by Sinclair.

Local news papers are closing left and right thanks to Facebook/Google becoming huge and gobbling up all the ad revenue... that's an Obama administration failure that Dems don't want to talk about.

But Vilsack's terrible ag policy has to be at the top of the list too. Like look at this: Farmers Reject Biden’s Pro-Corporate Rural Advisers



Biden has a golden opportunity. But appointing a ghoul like Vilsack fukks it up. Its the worst cabinet pick. By far.


How can a party survive only winning the managerial class on the coasts.
 
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