How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

[mastermind]

What is he not pushing for with regard to infrastructure that fundamentally puts him at odds with his campaign goals there?

And this is why we can't have fair discussions because you do this. Why are you limiting it to just infrastructure? There are things in healthcare with the public option, lowering prescription drug prices, etc that he hasn't even discussed and not included in his budget proposal.

Hopefully y'all will spend more time critiquing the type of people you championed and we could get some honest discussion.

Family, you aren't interested in an honest discussion. You know that. Instead, you hide behind, "well voters say..."

I'm sure @wire28 trolled you because he's been asking for the better part of a month for people to offer some realistic actions that can be taken by progressives beyond the tired, "Biden sucks/vote 3rd party" tropes.

Nah, he has spent the past 8 months trolling. He has no genuine interest in politics or policies.

 

[Pressure]

And this is why we can't have fair discussions because you do this. Why are you limiting it to just infrastructure? There are things in healthcare with the public option, lowering prescription drug prices, etc that he hasn't even discussed and not included in his budget proposal.

Because he can pass all of these things not infrastructure elsewhere.

No one gains anything when nothing passes.

Family, you aren't interested in an honest discussion. You know that.

My position always has been this will fail and dems will have to hash it out via reconciliation. I don't need to debate every small twist and turn or do the performative outrage to show I care.

Nah, he has spent the past 8 months trolling. He has no genuine interest in politics or policies.

I think he just doesn't agree with your views so it's easier to dismiss them altogether.

Discourse here been shyt since Biden won the nomination.

 

[Pressure]

Love it or hate, moderates/centrists have been fighter harder than any other block since Biden took office and we're seeing the results tilt in their favor.

 

[wire28]

Discourse here been shyt since 2015.

fixed

 

[Pressure]

fixed

It's a consistent moving target that's largely reactionary and mostly just spin for why candidates don't win.

Sometimes they pull back the veil when being critical of my views surrounding voting based results and finally come out and say things like, "voters will like progressive policies of we just enact them."

Populism has led progressive critics to move from grassroots sustained movements to attempting to co-opt the once criticized model taken up by "establishment types" who pass bills they like irrespective of what the electorate chose.

 

[No1]

And this is why we can't have fair discussions because you do this. Why are you limiting it to just infrastructure? There are things in healthcare with the public option, lowering prescription drug prices, etc that he hasn't even discussed and not included in his budget proposal.


Family, you aren't interested in an honest discussion. You know that. Instead, you hide behind, "well voters say..."


Nah, he has spent the past 8 months trolling. He has no genuine interest in politics or policies.

Fam, I just finally used my ignore button on that entire cohort. The level of gaslighting and bad faith just reached a point where I said enough. They only exist aggravate the left.

 

[mastermind]

Fam, I just finally used my ignore button on that entire cohort. The level of gaslighting and bad faith just reached a point where I said enough. They only exist aggravate the left.

They aren't serious about anything. Its either trolling or terrible takes. They align more with suburban whites than they realize, even down to celebrating an old woman going back to prison for taking a computer class.

We don't even have discussions on policies anymore because these people have MSNBC'd into thinking appearances work over action.

 

[Corny Batman]

"Why don't progressives stop this?"

 

[Red Shield]

With how weak Garland is Trump will face no consequences for his actions as POTUS nor will any of his enablers imo

anybody actually expecting anything to happen to trump afterwards wasn't paying attention..shyt never happens to presidents once their outta office

 

[Pressure]

They aren't serious about anything. Its either trolling or terrible takes. They align more with suburban whites than they realize, even down to celebrating an old woman going back to prison for taking a computer class.

We don't even have discussions on policies anymore because these people have MSNBC'd into thinking appearances work over action.

Sorry, I'm not championing a 60 year old woman selling heroin.

You as an immigrant attempting to speak for black americans and barnone as a well off attorney who touts loving his live in his fancy hi rise as a reason why he wants his student debt relief have NEVER lived the lives of the people you claim to be championing.

Y'all are frauds.

 

[Pressure]

The biggest problem is that this is mostly academic.

And guys consistently vent their frustration because they don't have answers. Because yall are out of touch with the day to day struggles of many black Americans.

Whether it be due to being a first/second generation immigrant, a coastal liberal, or just being better off than most black folks your entire lives.

I'm here to remind you that as your predictions continue to fail.

 

[Pressure]

"Why don't progressives stop this?"

At one point you ninnys were arguing that we should attach federal spending for law enforcement with progressive initiatives.

Now it's just a top line discussion.

 

[Pressure]

@MartyMcFly @mastermind go vote for the homie Sanders for nothing else than to make us not look like the Clintons own us. Ignore the Hillary trolls.

 

[mastermind]

Sorry, I'm not championing a 60 year old woman selling heroin.

well she is 76 and is going back to prison for taking a computer class.

I have no issue with her serving time for selling heroin. I have a huge problem with the overreach of law enforcement on matters like that. People get released from prison yet are still living as if they are in prison. Her going back to prison happens to black men. who get parole violations for bullshyt as well. I am not surprised you don't see the connection and even less surprised that you celebrated it.

You as an immigrant attempting to speak for black americans and barnone as a well off attorney who touts loving his live in his fancy hi rise as a reason why he wants his student debt relief have NEVER lived the lives of the people you claim to be championing.

Y'all are frauds.

Ahh, once again the "you are an immigrant" bullshyt based on your imagination. This is that TLR heat.

Your views are more aligned with suburban whites than you believe.

 

[Pressure]

well she is 76 and is going back to prison for taking a computer class.

I have no issue with her serving time for selling heroin. I have a huge problem with the overreach of law enforcement on matters like that. People get released from prison yet are still living as if they are in prison. Her going back to prison happens to black men. who get parole violations for bullshyt as well. I am not surprised you don't see the connection and even less surprised that you celebrated it.

She was so only out of jail because of covid. Her sentence wasn't almost up and she was going to go back.

She's back because she violated the terms of her ankle monitor. Anyone who had ever been on supervised leave knows this and agreed to those terms when they were let out.

Ahh, once again the "you are an immigrant" bullshyt based on your imagination. This is that TLR heat.

Your views are more aligned with suburban whites than you believe.

No I'm souther black male whose families have dealt with generations of racism and slavery.

I'm not naive enough to believe that America's class and race issue are on the same page. Further ro know that people who are suffering benefit from some relief instead of waiting for a perfect solution.

Things I support:

Universal Healthcare via a public options.
Increased taxes on corporations and shoring up loop holes.
Making sure the wealthy pay a higher effective tax rate than they currently are.
Increasing funding in our failing education system.
Providing free public college for all Americans.
Universal paid time off for child birth.
Investments in supplemental childcare.
Universal broadband.
Fixing zoning issues that lead to increased housing costs.
Support for workers to unionize.
Increased minimum wage.
Decriminalization of nonviolent drug offenses.
Increased mental health programs.
Boyer reform that makes it easier than vote.
Election day as a federal holiday.
Police oversight boards that allow review periods prior to hiring.
Removal of the filibuster.


But please continue with your strawman. Because I actually work with black people for black issues that have causes black changes and even posts what I've done.

So I'm not listening to a little bytch ass old nikka who can't even go outside and fight for tell me shyt.