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The south is ridiculously hard to unionize. I've helped several Atlanta area Starbucks and an Apple Store in their unionizing efforts. We were at it for a whole year and only 1 Starbucks narrowly won the vote the unionize and they still haven't gotten a contract yet,
 

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The south is ridiculously hard to unionize. I've helped several Atlanta area Starbucks and an Apple Store in their unionizing efforts. We were at it for a whole year and only 1 Starbucks narrowly won the vote the unionize and they still haven't gotten a contract yet,
Theyve been fed the RW bs that unions are bad
 

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The south is ridiculously hard to unionize. I've helped several Atlanta area Starbucks and an Apple Store in their unionizing efforts. We were at it for a whole year and only 1 Starbucks narrowly won the vote the unionize and they still haven't gotten a contract yet,
Most of those states have anti union laws as well.
 

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The south is ridiculously hard to unionize. I've helped several Atlanta area Starbucks and an Apple Store in their unionizing efforts. We were at it for a whole year and only 1 Starbucks narrowly won the vote the unionize and they still haven't gotten a contract yet,

Most of those states have anti union laws as well.

And plain old intimidation.
This stuff isn’t as black and white y’all like to make it seem.

A union is optimal but if the workers feel like they are being treated well by the company then it’s going to be hard to unionize. Also a lot non union manufacturing places have elected representatives that negotiate with management.

A union has to actually show what they will do that will be worth 600 dollars a year from every employee
 

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This stuff isn’t as black and white y’all like to make it seem.

A union is optimal but if the workers feel like they are being treated well by the company then it’s going to be hard to unionize. Also a lot non union manufacturing places have elected representatives that negotiate with management.

A union has to actually show what they will do that will be worth 600 dollars a year from every employee
Alabama has anti union laws


Of course unions have to convince workers, but states like yours do not want unions. That’s why big factories are in places like Alabama.
 

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Alabama has anti union laws


Of course unions have to convince workers, but states like yours do not want unions. That’s why big factories are in places like Alabama.
They don’t but it’s nothing that the state can do to stop workers from unionizing.

All I’m saying is that if the workers aren’t having drastic issues with management it’s going to be a hard sell
 

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They don’t but it’s nothing that the state can do to stop workers from unionizing.

All I’m saying is that if the workers aren’t having drastic issues with management it’s going to be a hard sell
No one has said otherwise. That’s why union membership is voted.

However the black and white issue is states like yours that are anti union and pass laws to incentivize it.

Also, a lot of these places, these factories are the only jobs available that offer decent salaries. It’s the same argument with employee-covered healthcare. Most people say they are happy with it because the alternative is no health care and no job.
 
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No one has said otherwise. That’s why union membership is voted.

However the black and white issue is states like yours that are anti union and pass laws to incentivize it.

Also, a lot of these places, these factories are the only jobs available that offer decent salaries. It’s the same argument with employee-covered healthcare. Most people say they are happy with it because the alternative is no health care and no job.
But it’s up to the union or show how the unknown will be better. Same with universal healthcare. You can’t really fault people for choosing the devil they know in these situations
 

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But it’s up to the union or show how the unknown will be better.
You keep saying this as if someone has disagreed with that point. No one has.

What is black and white is the state of Alabama has laws that are anti-union, which you don't want to address.
 

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You keep saying this as if someone has disagreed with that point. No one has.

What is black and white is the state of Alabama has laws that are anti-union, which you don't want to address.
What anti union laws does the state have? You can’t prevent people from unionizing.

If anyone was following this UAW never ever had the votes. They got the minimum 30% needed to hold an election and moved forward
 
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