How will Joe Biden GOVERN? General Biden Administration F**kery Thread

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What's everyone's opinion on a potential repeal of the gas tax?

As someone who doesn't own a car, it seems like a waste of resources and largely symbolic. With the price volatility at the pump, I'm not sure it will be noticeable to the average American either.

I've never been a fan of oil and gas, but I actually get their perspective too. This is basically the last hurrah for them. Why would they look for new places to mine resources or ramp up production if the fat lady is already warming up on their industry. It's like trading for new, star players mid-season when you're below .500 and unlikely to make the playoffs.

Speaking of which, as a political supporter of Democrats, I've basically checked out of Biden's administration. He became a lame duck the second Manchin started throwing his weight around, but he is handcuffed in terms of bold legislation through executive action lest he be compared to his predecessor. At this point, I still respect him and feel sorry for him, but I also acknowledge Dems are likely to lose House (and maybe Senate) and I don't want him run for a second term either.
 
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What's everyone's opinion on a gas tax?

As someone who doesn't own a car, it seems like a waste of resources and largely symbolic. With the price volatility at the pump, I'm not sure it will be noticeable to the average American either.

Not a fan:
1. it won't make a noticeable savings at the pump.
2. I haven't seen the long term strategy to offset or recover the lost tax revenue because it's doubtful that they're going to agree to eat it.
 

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Speaking of which, as a political supporter of Democrats, I've basically checked out of Biden's administration. He became a lame duck the second Manchin started throwing his weight around, but he is handcuffed in terms of bold legislation through executive action lest he be compared to his predecessor.
... Why would that handcuff him? Who cares? I don't give a shyt if someone compares him to Trump if he's canceling student debt or federally rescheduling marijuana. Do you?

That excuse makes zero sense to me. This 'they go low, we go high' shyt has not worked out, there is no reason to keep playing by the rules if you're allowing the other side to keep breaking them.
 

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... Why would that handcuff him? Who cares? I don't give a shyt if someone compares him to Trump if he's canceling student debt or federally rescheduling marijuana. Do you?

That excuse makes zero sense to me. This 'they go low, we go high' shyt has not worked out, there is no reason to keep playing by the rules if you're allowing the other side to keep breaking them.
I think the difference is Trump's actions being an anomaly versus Trumps actions ushering a new norm of presidents essentially ruling by temporary decree indefinitely. As a democracy, the goal is to get consensus as much as possible. I think executive action should be used for apolitical issues or unaddressed issues that have an extremely negative effect on the population.

Yes, I am for canceling student debt and rescheduling marijuana, but as it stands now, canceling student debt would add to inflation levels and the legalization of marijuana is political since the majority of Republicans oppose it. IMO it isn't having an extremely negative effect on the population, so I'm unopposed to kicking the can down the road.

I think Biden is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't at this point. I don't think people like him enough for any policy to positively affect his approval ratings in a major way... kinda like Trump issuing the stimulus checks
 

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To be fair though, he is right in that 2022/2024 are basically hopeless for the Democrats. :francis:

They would be in a bad position even without inflation/gas prices, but as things are we may be looking at decades of GOP control.
 

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To be fair though, he is right in that 2022/2024 are basically hopeless for the Democrats. :francis:

They would be in a bad position even without inflation/gas prices, but as things are we may be looking at decades of GOP control.
We would be better off if Trump had won re-election or maybe succeeded in overthrowing the government? :comeon:
 

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I think the difference is Trump's actions being an anomaly versus Trumps actions ushering a new norm of presidents essentially ruling by temporary decree indefinitely. As a democracy, the goal is to get consensus as much as possible. I think executive action should be used for apolitical issues or unaddressed issues that have an extremely negative effect on the population.

Yes, I am for canceling student debt and rescheduling marijuana, but as it stands now, canceling student debt would add to inflation levels and the legalization of marijuana is political since the majority of Republicans oppose it. IMO it isn't having an extremely negative effect on the population, so I'm unopposed to kicking the can down the road.

I think Biden is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't at this point. I don't think people like him enough for any policy to positively affect his approval ratings in a major way... kinda like Trump issuing the stimulus checks
Reliance on executive action is really more a byproduct of Congress not working in the way that it was designed.

Trump abused executive actions because he had little to no policy, therefore he had nothing to really argue and give up in negotiation. Biden has a hostile opposition that is frequently being leveraged by members of his own party for personal gain.

The answer: eliminating the filibuster.
 
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Reliance on executive action is really more a byproduct of Congress not working in the way that it was designed.

Trump abused executive actions because he had little to no policy, therefore he had nothing to really argue and give up in negotiation. Biden has a hostile opposition that is frequently being leveraged by members of his own party for personal gain.

The answer: eliminating the filibuster.
I can see the nuance behind this but I also appreciate that the average American will not grasp this nuance and Republicans will just spin it to do something stupid and unpopular when they're in office like gutting ACA or something ridiculous when the dog finally catches the car.

Now that I think about it tho, eliminating the filibuster and/or stacking the Supreme Court are the only policy decisions that I can think of that will have a solid impact beyond Biden's term.
 

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I can see the nuance behind this but I also appreciate that the average American will not grasp this nuance and Republicans will just spin it to do something stupid and unpopular when they're in office like gutting ACA or something ridiculous when the dog finally catches the car.

Now that I think about it tho, eliminating the filibuster and/or stacking the Supreme Court are the only policy decisions that I can think of that will have a solid impact beyond Biden's term.

Unfortunately those aren't actually options for the same reason that there's reliance on executive action in the first place.

Congress just isn't going to cooperate with anything. Even if Biden wanted to get rid of the filibuster the Senate wouldn't be willing to do it.
 

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