How was it when The College Dropout came out?

Wacky D

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Also, it’s a flat out lie that no one was listening to Kanye. Everyone was listening to everything back then, and Kanye was managing to bring something different.


You misinterpreted what was said.

Also, why do you always fly off the handle with your generalizations? Lol @ everybody listening to everything at any point - especially back then.
 

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I think it depends on how old you were at the time.
If you was like 16+ kanye was new dude that had a dope album you really did not see him as anything special.
If you were like a middle school kid just getting into hip hop he was a bing influence on your style of music
 

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Kanye was the biggest thing in Rap in 04’. :dahell:Black people definitely were fukking with Ye. His music was played on black radio 24/7. Hood nikkas fukked with Ye too because he was like a modern day Pete Rock in terms of beat production. Everyone wanted a Ye beat back then. Also, his ability to make songs was crazy. Dipset and G Unit musically were weak compared to Ye. Dipset and G Unit peaked in 03’. :umad:After that, both camps no longer generated the level of success they had that year. Which is why there was the widely publicized album release square off between Ye and 50 in 05’.

I knew no one who was a super tough guy who refused to admit Ye was dope. :aicmon:And Ye wasn’t exactly Drake either. He spent his childhood in the hood in Chicago and came off as being true to the game black. People forget how big positive Hip Hop was in the early 90’s. The early 2000’s saw a brief reemergence of positive Hip Hop with artists like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Dead Prez and Common making hits. Ye was like the last neo soul influenced neo backpacker positive rapper to emerge and make an impact in the early 2000’s. Ye was like a modern Native Tongues, Tribe Called Quest type rapper. He also had everyone switching their wardrobe from tall tees and jerseys to all Polo everything and premium denim. He had hood nikkas dressing like a 2000’s Carlton Banks.


G unit was still very popular in 04 banks album sold like 433,000 the first week with no real single.
 

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You misinterpreted what was said.

Also, why do you always fly off the handle with your generalizations? Lol @ everybody listening to everything at any point - especially back then.

I do not fly off the handle with any generalizations, I tell exactly what happened, every time. I don’t do any revisionist history like everybody else does on here. Pre-2006, every region was getting shine and spotlight. That isn’t debatable at all.
 
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I do not fly off the handle with any generalizations, I tell exactly what happened, every time. I don’t do any revisionist history like everybody else does on here. Pre-2006, every region was getting shine and spotlight. That isn’t debatable at all.




Hell whose trying to debate that?


From 0-05 every major region pretty much ate equally. Hov made a big splash with his “retirement” in 03 but The ROC was still alive. Nas in 04 was able to push a million copies of Streets Disciple with a street track and a song dedicated to his father as the lead singles. 50 Cent was dominating the charts, Kanye and Common held it down for the Midwest while Lupe Fiasco was bubbling with 1st & 15th mixtapes. Lil John, Ludacris & Outkast held it down for the South. Fabolous was poppin. Talib Kweli and Mos Def were underground darlings who flirted with commercial success. The Game was holding it down for the West and Snoop was still a viable artist and not a caricature.
 

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I'm not adding anything totally original, but I think it's dope how Kanye was able to sort of bridge the gap between the underground and the mainstream. Cats like Black Star, The Roots, Little Brother, etc, would never be 100% mainstream, but Kanye did a good job of making the most accessible / pop version of their style that could be made at the time. I was also impressed at how respected he was among the lyricist crowd without ever really being on the same level lyrically as a lot of the circles he ran in.
 

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It had a lot of hype and I bought it 1st day, but it wasn't that classic that I thought it might be. Even production-wise. It was a very significant album but it didn't really run that year like some albums do certain years. You think of that summer and you think of Lil Jon, Lloyd Banks, Jadakiss, and not Kanye's album still buzzing.
 

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Yep. Curtis and Graduation dropped the same day. 50 really fukked up with that. Kanye wasn't even trying to do the competing albums thing, but 50 kept pushing it, and saying he would retire if Kanye outsold him, etc. Kanye outsold him, and not only that....but Curtis just sounded like a more stale version of The Massacre, and people were burned out on 50 and G-Unit. And at the same time, Graduation was this really large sounding, stadium album that was a new sound even for Kanye.

One of the best albums of the 2000's vs one of most lackuster albums of the 2000's.

IMHO 50 wouldn't have declined as much as he did if he hadn't been the one to push the narrative so hard on making those albums compete with each other. He brought it on himself.

50 didnt fukk up, he probably sold more albums because of that. 50 was cold by 2007. Really by summer 06 G-Unit was cold. GRODT movie and soundtrack kinda flopped and Banks 2nd album flopped, the game had moved on. 50 released 2 singles that flopped before I get Money and the Timberlake record hit. For 50 to still sell almost 2+mil at that time was partially owed to Kanye.
 

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I was 11 at the time. Remember hearing Jesus Walks on the radio alot. I remember being next door at my neighbour's house and seeing the video for the first time too. But at that time at least for me, everything was 50 / G-Unit
 
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