Might be environmental...maybe they don't want to ruin the view...
How to turn NIMBYs into YIMBYs
- Thread starter OfTheCross
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All of that already exists, though. The problem for NIMBYs is usually that they're trying to go even higher
Sure they exist, but they are far more restricted in terms of zoning and regulatory hurdles and therefore have substantial less inventory than what could be available.
ogc163
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Relevant video:
Here's been my question regarding Zoning, etc.
My area has parts that are zoned for Estate homes. Extra large logs, narrow 2-lane roads, etc.
Why now, would we want that to be zoned for a 1500 unit Apartment building? There's no infrastructure for it.
ogc163
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Some YT Urban Planning channels I watch that have discussed the issue:
I sub to CityBeautiful. Will check out the others...Single-Family isn't the wave...but for quality of life, neither is Super density
Why are you fixated on a 1500 unit building? That’s not the only option and just repeats multi unit=skyscraper! Argument.
Unless you’re in favor of just being outright exclusive and not allowing any additional population growth or changes in your area then the infrastructure is eventually going to have to adapt regardless.
ogc163
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Noah Smith currently resides in the bay and often criticizes left wing NIMBY's and has a couple of really good substack posts on the subject, the best being the "Yuppie Fishtank Theory" Yuppie Fishtanks: YIMBYism explained without "supply and demand"
https://www.tiktok.com/@jake_gotta/video/6940760990103473414?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
https://www.tiktok.com/@jake_gotta/video/6940760990103473414?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1
ogc163
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dora_da_destroyer
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SF has environmental, issues from being built on landfill, earthquakes, and hills
some places, that's what they're demanding, SF has plenty of mid rise, MF buildings, but the pro-development groups want to push toward 20 story buildings everywhere. i'm pro housing development but also one that doesn't feel every city needs to look like NY. where we went wrong with suburbs is making them some SFH oriented. i think that's where people should push MF and mid rise development, the new developments that are popping up shouldn't all be 3000 sq ft mcmansions
ogc163
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dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
also, these cities didn't expect that 80% of the population would be living in urban areas, sorry, but there's no pace of planning and building that can keep pace with that, especially a place like the Bay which was doing fine until the tech rush of the late 90's-present. biggest way to fix the housing issue is distributed work - both remote workers but also creating hub offices in more places vs these centralized HQs that bring 10-50k people to an area. covid showed us there's a large population only living in these areas for the jobs, spread the jobs around and stop driving unsustainable demand to the same 10-20 cities
The 1500 unit building is what gets the big pushback.
I don't think people would care much if the zoning was changed to allow for duplexes. Developers don't ask for that tho.
And mine was a real life example.