How The Marketing for Terminator 2 Ruined An ALL-TIME GREAT Reveal...

[TheDarceKnight]

Still haven't seen the first one.

Check that out man. I watched it again last week. It's getting more and more dated, but the story is so dope. All time classic. @TKOK is right. If you like sci fi, action, or old slasher flicks, you'll love it. It's even got that John Carpenter vibe on the music with all the synthesizer sounds and shyt. It's got way more horror influence than people usually talk about. Perfect blend of all 3 genres.

it's like a sci-fi slasher movie when you think on it.

Great way to describe it!

 

[TheDarceKnight]

i know you a sneakerhead did you peep the forces kylre reese character was wearing in t1

I think they had those remade for the new one too. Michael Biehn was my favorite actor for a minute too. Reese, Hicks, Lt. Coffey...played 3 iconic characters in 3 iconic James Cameron movies.

I just read they actually considered him for the T-1000 in T2. Cameron thought it would be a good idea for Skynet to try and trick Sarah by making her think reese was somehow still alive and then having him try to get her to John. Cameron ultimately decided that would be too confusing, especially for people that hadn't seen the original.

I actually ran into Michael Biehn last year downtown. I guess there was a smaller ComicCon type thing that weekend. He looked kinda worn down. It was about noon and he looked like he was drunk. I dunno. I said hey. He kinda looked annoyed but said hey back. I didn't ask for a pic or anything. I kinda wish I did, I just didn't wanna bug him. Normally I don't bug anyone even semi-famous if I meet them in public. But the family cat growing up was named Hicks, so it might be dope to have had at least one pic with the guy. I'm never gonna run into him on the street again.

oh well

 

[thaKEAF]

Check that out man. I watched it again last week. It's getting more and more dated, but the story is so dope. All time classic. @TKOK is right. If you like sci fi, action, or old slasher flicks, you'll love it. It's even got that John Carpenter vibe on the music with all the synthesizer sounds and shyt. It's got way more horror influence than people usually talk about. Perfect blend of all 3 genres.



Great way to describe it!

Just watched it last week. It was actually pretty dope despite the aspects of it..couldn't help but @ how terrible it looked when the robot terminator was after them at the end. It was good story telling though can't believe it took me this long to see it. now the second one which is one of my favorite movies makes a lot more sense to me.

 

[lamont614]

I think they had those remade for the new one too. Michael Biehn was my favorite actor for a minute too. Reese, Hicks, Lt. Coffey...played 3 iconic characters in 3 iconic James Cameron movies.

I just read they actually considered him for the T-1000 in T2. Cameron thought it would be a good idea for Skynet to try and trick Sarah by making her think reese was somehow still alive and then having him try to get her to John. Cameron ultimately decided that would be too confusing, especially for people that hadn't seen the original.

I actually ran into Michael Biehn last year downtown. I guess there was a smaller ComicCon type thing that weekend. He looked kinda worn down. It was about noon and he looked like he was drunk. I dunno. I said hey. He kinda looked annoyed but said hey back. I didn't ask for a pic or anything. I kinda wish I did, I just didn't wanna bug him. Normally I don't bug anyone even semi-famous if I meet them in public. But the family cat growing up was named Hicks, so it might be dope to have had at least one pic with the guy. I'm never gonna run into him on the street again.

oh well

didnt even notice he was in aliens
also bill paxton was in t1 in the beginning and he was in aliens 2 right ?



i never seen abyss is it piff??
they remade those air forces for the new terminator ???

 

[Monoblock]

this.....
i was youngin real talk i didnt even know there was a t1 til i got older or predator 1 i seen predator 2 first i didnt know what a sequel was

One of the best action movies ever. I remember back in 91 my uncle showed that shyt to me on VHS and my young mind almost couldnt take dudes being skinned alive and hung upside down from trees 20 feet in the air. That shyt had me shook b/c throughout the whole movie you didnt know what was hunting them until the big reveal. The mini gun chopping down the jungle scene, Mac loosing his shyt running up the hill "I'm gonna have me some fun" scene

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, Dillon getting his arm chopped off and skewered by, Mac getting his head popped with the red triangle beam, "RUUUUN GET TO DA CHOPPAAAA" Dutch going toe to toe with the Predator and finally outsmarting him. Man I love the first Predator so damn much and its so classic.

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On my computer right now

 

[TheDarceKnight]

didnt even notice he was in aliens
also bill paxton was in t1 in the beginning and he was in aliens 2 right ?



i never seen abyss is it piff??
they remade those air forces for the new terminator ???

Another trivia bomb. Bill Paxton is the only actor to be killed by a Terminator, Alien, and Predator. Arnold killed him in T1 by punching through his body. He got killed by some aliens coming up from under the floor in Aliens, and he got killed by the predator after unloading his gun at it on the subway in Predator 2.

Yeah man! Michael Biehn/Hicks was the only marine to survive the entire movie in Aliens.

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Terminator

Aliens

Abyss

 

[TheDarceKnight]

i never seen abyss is it piff??

The Abyss is one of Ed Harris' best movies. Same with Michael Biehn. Lots of good performances, and there's a special effect in there that was the blueprint for the T-1000 in T2. Also the movie was notorious for being one of the most difficult and stressful film shoots in history. Cameron was a beast, and everyone was underwater all day. pretty sure a few people almost drowned making the movie. People lost their hair color because the chlorine turned their hair white after so much time in the water. It's worth watching just to see what the actors went through.

The cast and crew endured over six months of grueling six-day, 70-hour weeks on an isolated set. At one point, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio had a physical and emotional breakdown on the set and on another occasion, Ed Harris burst into spontaneous sobbing while driving home. Cameron himself admitted, "I knew this was going to be a hard shoot, but even I had no idea just how hard. I don't ever want to go through this again".[10] For example, for the scene where portions of the rig are flooded with water, he realized that he initially did not know how to minimize the sequence's inherent danger. It took him more than four hours to set up the shot safely.[11] Actor Leo Burmester said, "Shooting The Abyss has been the hardest thing I've ever done. Jim Cameron is the type of director who pushes you to the edge, but he doesn't make you do anything he wouldn't do himself."[12] A lightning storm caused a 200-foot (65 m) tear in the black tarpaulin covering the main tank.[14] Repairing it would have taken too much time, so the production began shooting at night.[20] In addition, blooming algae often reduced visibility to 20 feet (6 m) within hours. Over-chlorination led to divers' skin burning and exposed hair being stripped off.[20]


Some of the actors did not like the slow pace of filming. Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio remembered, "We never started and finished any one scene in any one day".[11] At one point, Cameron told the actors to relieve themselves in their wetsuits to save time between takes.[20] On another occasion, while filming one of many takes of a difficult scene, the camera ran out of film, prompting Mastrantonio to storm off the set yelling, "We are not animals!" Michael Biehn also grew frustrated by the waiting. He claimed that he was in South Carolina for five months and only acted for three to four weeks.[11] He remembered one day being ten meters underwater and "suddenly the lights went out. It was so black I couldn't see my hand. I couldn't surface. I realized I might not get out of there." Harris said that the daily mental and physical strain was very intense and remembered, "One day we were all in our dressing rooms and people began throwing couches out the windows and smashing the walls. We just had to get our frustrations out."[7] Cameron responded to these complaints, saying, "For every hour they spent trying to figure out what magazine to read, we spent an hour at the bottom of the tank breathing compressed air."[11] After 140 days and $4 million over budget, filming finally wrapped on December 8, 1988.[20] Before the film's release, there were reports from South Carolina that Ed Harris was so upset by the physical demands of the film and Cameron's dictatorial directing style that he said he would refuse to help promote the motion picture. Harris later denied this rumor and helped promote the film.[11] However, after its release and initial promotion, Harris publicly refused to ever again discuss the film, saying "I'm never talking about it and never will." Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio has also since brushed off the film, commenting, "The Abyss was a lot of things. Fun to make was not one of them."[21]

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

didnt even notice he was in aliens
also bill paxton was in t1 in the beginning and he was in aliens 2 right ?



i never seen abyss is it piff??
they remade those air forces for the new terminator ???

Bill Paxton played a classic character in Aliens, Hudson. Dude was hilarious, went out like a G too even though he was a coward most of the film.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Bill Paxton played a classic character in Aliens, Hudson. Dude was hilarious, went out like a G too even though he was a coward most of the film.

I guess they just pulled him under the floor? So maybe there's a chance he made it?




Oh yeah, they ended up nuking the planet.


Hudson went out like a true boss though. Finally nutted up like you said.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

I guess they just pulled him under the floor? So maybe there's a chance he made it?




Oh yeah, they ended up nuking the planet.


Hudson went out like a true boss though. Finally nutted up like you said.

He was probably coc00ned, maybe he was able to get a shot off at himself somehow. fukking A.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

He was probably coc00ned, maybe he was able to get a shot off at himself somehow. fukking A.

Did you ever see this? It FINALLY got released. A lot of people didn't even believe this got filmed and was just a rumor. Supposedly the blast you hear a bit later is Burke setting off the grenade.

 

[Luke Cage]

i mean was it a big twist though? It reveals itself early in act 1...its not a big reveal; its a major plot piece but "Come with me if you want to live" isn't a final act climax secret...arnold as a good guy is WHY people wanted to see it

this makes no sense,
arnold being the terminator is why people wanted to see it. he was badass evil robot in the first movie.
we wouldn't have known he was a good guy except for the trailer. yes that makes it a big twist.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

this makes no sense,
arnold being the terminator is why people wanted to see it. he was badass evil robot in the first movie.
we wouldn't have known he was a good guy except for the trailer. yes that makes it a big twist.

how old were you then?

 

[TheDarceKnight]

i mean was it a big twist though? It reveals itself early in act 1...its not a big reveal; its a major plot piece but "Come with me if you want to live" isn't a final act climax secret...arnold as a good guy is WHY people wanted to see it

It does reveal itself early, but Cameron has definitely said before that he wanted the audience to be on the edge of their seat during the hallway scene at the mall. Even the early ads said "This time, there are 2 terminators." The trailer marketing Arnold as a good guy wasn't his idea and he wasn't happy about it. I don't think it ruined the movie or anything, but it was definitely something that would've been much cooler if no one knew.

 

[lamont614]

I think they had those remade for the new one too. Michael Biehn was my favorite actor for a minute too. Reese, Hicks, Lt. Coffey...played 3 iconic characters in 3 iconic James Cameron movies.

I just read they actually considered him for the T-1000 in T2. Cameron thought it would be a good idea for Skynet to try and trick Sarah by making her think reese was somehow still alive and then having him try to get her to John. Cameron ultimately decided that would be too confusing, especially for people that hadn't seen the original.

I actually ran into Michael Biehn last year downtown. I guess there was a smaller ComicCon type thing that weekend. He looked kinda worn down. It was about noon and he looked like he was drunk. I dunno. I said hey. He kinda looked annoyed but said hey back. I didn't ask for a pic or anything. I kinda wish I did, I just didn't wanna bug him. Normally I don't bug anyone even semi-famous if I meet them in public. But the family cat growing up was named Hicks, so it might be dope to have had at least one pic with the guy. I'm never gonna run into him on the street again.

oh well

they are nike vandals not forces i did my googles lol


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